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CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 01 2006, 7:11 pm

Honstley, If you think the Borg is overused than what may I ask do you think should be used?

DIRGE

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Report this Dec. 01 2006, 11:48 pm

If anything, Species 8472 need more RPGtime.

CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 1:52 am

To incorperate Species 8472 would also mean RPGing alot about the Borg, face it the Borg are a big part of the star trek plot. Just as the Jem Hadar were. And At one point the Klingons and Romulans and Cardassians.

AdmiralJoelschooler

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 1:53 am

and humans

CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 4:40 pm

Its simply because when something works you stick with it, the Borg are the most widely known enemy even to non trek fans, so that should tell you how important and usuful they are, it's they're formable style that makes them good to use. Sometimes, Imagination can get you into trouble. People want to simm with things they know about, have seen. Not what is pulled out of someone's head and fresh.

Borg03

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 5:05 pm

Oh yeah, and jut 'cos we've set out 2 destroy the Borg if we can, doesn't mean that there won't be a new enemy whilst or after we do....

DIRGE

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 9:28 pm

Um, who controls the Borg?

CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 02 2006, 9:34 pm

they control themselves duh

Borg03

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Report this Dec. 03 2006, 6:48 am

Right I feel the need to point out that simming occurs in the world of Star Trek here.
The Borg were a well thought out enemy and will still be used for many years to come!
However as stated in the very first post on this thread (Which it is obvious you did not read very thourouly) that our primary mission was to EXPLORE THE DELTA-QUADRANT!
The Borg happen to be a hostile race that live in the Delta Quadrent so as it happens yes we would be trying to destroy them - believe it or not.
But as this is STAR TREK simming on board a federation ship our main goal is to seek out new life and new civilizations and to boldly go where no one has gone before.
I said that we would try to destroy the Borg if we had the chance! That does NOT mean that the Voudwaar wil not be popping up every so often or that the Videans won't want to steal our organs (I know they won't beacuse of the cure for the phage from the think tank) or that we won't come across some new enemy and have to fight with them till the end!

Borg03

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Report this Dec. 03 2006, 6:59 am

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CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 03 2006, 12:23 pm

Quote (Shuttle @ Dec. 02 2006, 6:44 am)
Quote (CaptainJBridges @ Dec. 01 2006, 5:40 pm)
Its simply because when something works you stick with it, the Borg are the most widely known enemy even to non trek fans, so that should tell you how important and usuful they are, it's they're formable style that makes them good to use. Sometimes, Imagination can get you into trouble. People want to simm with things they know about, have seen. Not what is pulled out of someone's head and fresh.

In other words, you should tell authors everywhere NEVER to write a new book, because writing about something that isn't "widely known" isn't accetable and wouldn't work. And TV should stick to reality TV shows, because that is what people are familiar with. And god forbid should anyone try anything new! :O ?

I have to be honest, this is the most appalling attitude toward simming I've ever seen - it's SUPPOSED to be about imagination. I am SO glad that the writers of the episode "Scorpion" didn't have your limited insight, otherwise we'd never have had species 8472 (since you clearly believe that the Borg are the only enemy in Trek worth anyone's time)

I suppose that it IS acceptable if all you want is a useless fanboy sim, with one sentence posts, and where the ship does little more than fire it's weapons at everything it see's though?

Not to mention that too many people ignore the fact that the last time we actually saw the Borg, they were a MESS - the unicomplex had exploded, the collective link was damaged, and whilst it is possible that they'd recover, it WOULD NOT happen overnight!

Anyway - try searching the net - you find that the most sucessful sims are the ones that are willing to try out new idea's and use their imaginations. Sticking to the same old TIRED enemy has a VERY limited appeal, and sims that chose that route rarely survive. And I AM speaking from experience of what I've seen happen in the past, and I manage a rather sucessful sim myself.

Actually, your senseless need to put a simm down before it even starts is how Spock would say illogical, you fire at us as if we have done something wrong, no im not saying new ideas can't be thought up, but old ones should never just be left around and wasted it doesnt matter how tired they are.

Also, you said the last time we saw the borg they were a mess, yes..................which makes it EVEN more appealing to see how they are now.

Finally, I know what makes a sim successful I do not ned be lectured to that extent, I have ran a fleet before and know that there are still poeple who like having older ideas, which can be supported by new ones. You do not make a new word by simply saying ADHKJSI I mean lol you have to put in something that people understand first; such as I ADHKJSI to the playground, than you can assume that it means went or am going. Some form of go. I must say I have never in my life heard such a person decirbe a simm in such a negative way before it even got off the ground. For that you should be asshamed, if you do not want to say anything positive about it dont say anything at all. Not EVERY simm SHOULD have new ideas, so many would blur the purpose of the trek universe than you start creating your own rather than staying true to the orginal plan.

CaptainJBridges

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Report this Dec. 03 2006, 6:16 pm

No it doesnt but to keep alive the older ideas than some still do, in time the Borg will become less used and newer species will gradually come into the picture, but for the time being, we just want to simm with things we are confortable with. It isnt lack of imagination though to me anyway, it seems to be more of fear of change, not fear of trying something. Some things fans never wanna change. Some things some fans do, but that is why there are so many kinds of simms for those who may take they're pick. Im not saying your wrong or that im wrong only that the different views is what is the most creative of all, if that makes sense. Not one group of ppl wanting to try new things all the time, but those who like the established ideas. Which helps balance and give root to the newer ones. Im sorry for getting upset and all, but I was just trying to show you my side, not make you want to be with the idea, but at least leave your mind open to it as you have done with newer chatacters with me.

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