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Las Vegas Con: Scott Bakula

HJKNY

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 10:18 am

Quote (london1 @ Aug. 09 2006, 3:51 pm)
Well, this will be my last post on the subject and I originally chimed in on this thread just to put my 2 cents in on the subject and i am really surprised by the gullibility and naivete of so many of you guys out there. ........when people give these actors a free pass by blaming THE EVIL ROMULA er, i mean Creation conventions like they are some all powerful entity IT IS A JOKE and it is no wonder trekkers get laughed at so much!! These actors hold all the cards as far as these conventions are concerned and can sign on to be a headliner and then CANCEL ON THE SLIGHTEST WHIM. I am not going to start getting into who i know or who i have talked to because i hate when posters start doing that nor am i going to lie and say i know for sure what Creations buisness arrangements are because i do not .......anyway , i hope i havent offended anybody and i hope you all are well in the future



I'm sorry you've become such a cynic. I can only echo what beckettslady has said regarding Scott and autographs.

I, too, have witnessed his patience and graciousness when it comes to posing for photos and signing autographs (sometimes 2, 3 and 4 from one person!;). He's never cut the line short and he's never turned anyone down. I've seen him stand for 2+ hours after performing in a grueling 2 -2 1/2 hour play, signing and posing to make sure that everyone comes away with what they wanted and he's never charged a dime. Coming out in between performances in D.C was unnecessary but he didn't want to think that anyone was waiting for him and didn't get face to face time. This is not a person whose goal it is to take advantage of Trek fans and for you to claim otherwise is untrue.

Scott has also never, at least to my knowledge, canceled an appearance anywhere because he 'gets' it. In fact, he's always the last person commited to something like this (duh !!;) because he's concerned that something will come up that will cause him to have to bow out and he hates to disappoint. He understands that one of the reason he is where he is, is because of the loyalty of those who follow him and he's never given anyone reason to grouse.

I am sorry that Creation Trek conventions have become the only mecca for fans thus giving them a great deal of omnipotence. Just wish I had a piece of their action .

msmontie

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 10:52 am

I would like to add my 2 cents as well.  While in Washington DC, Scott was the guest speaker at the National Press Club.The tickets for that luncheon cost $35.  Scott posed for pictures and signed anything that was given to him after the luncheon was over.  There was a time when someone came over to him and said that reporters were waiting to interview him.....he said he wanted to finish up with his fans first. He never rushed anyone. He was gracious and generous with whomever he spoke with.
I find it ironic that Scott has been blasted for not doing the cons in the past and now is blasted when he is doing it.  [B]

ezridax21

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 10:57 am

Come on now. Everyone knows Creation is notorious for bleeding the fans dry. No way is this Scott's doing. He offered to sign a limited number of autographs, so Creation figured they could charge up the wazzoo for them. Well just goes to show that not everyone things the price is too high, since his autograph tix sold out twice!!

I am just glad Scott is going to be at the con and I will finally get to see him in person :)

Jolando

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 11:44 am

I'm sure that Creation is most of that pricing, not Scott Bakula. Mr. Bakula has not done a Creation con since 1993. I'm sure Creation is bilking this attendance for all it's worth. Also, their first line of autograph tickets were sold out in just about one day and at that point, they increased pricing when they saw there was a huge demand.

Alatheia

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 12:20 pm

I know from experience how kind and generous Scott is with his fans.  And I'm happy to conclude that it sounds like no one here is really questioning that.  

So what it looks like to me is that people are complaining that the opportunity to get Scott's autograph at a Star Trek convention is costing so much.  Since he does it for free in any other venue (after shows and at charity events), then I think the primary responsibility for these remarkable prices has to rest with Creation.  Just seems logical.... ;)

beckettslady

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 12:44 pm

Quote (london1 @ Aug. 08 2006, 4:51 pm)
Well, this will be my last post on the subject and I originally chimed in on this thread just to put my 2 cents in on the subject and i am really surprised by the gullibility and naivete of so many of you guys out there. I never said Bakula was not a nice person nor did i say he wouldnt sign an autograph for a fan if he bumped into one on the street, a shopping mall, gas station, etc; nor do i doubt he would rush into a burning building to save a baby or give the cure for cancer for free if he could. I simply feel he is taking advantage a bit of the very fans who supported Enterprise and whose only chance to see him will be at a convention and when people give these actors a free pass by blaming THE EVIL ROMULA er, i mean Creation conventions like they are some all powerful entity IT IS A JOKE and it is no wonder trekkers get laughed at so much!! These actors hold all the cards as far as these conventions are concerned and can sign on to be a headliner and then CANCEL ON THE SLIGHTEST WHIM. I am not going to start getting into who i know or who i have talked to because i hate when posters start doing that nor am i going to lie and say i know for sure what Creations buisness arrangements are because i do not but i have been attending these things for almost thirty years and when you have done that you pick up a thing or two. I have also rented sales booths at over 50 conventions for my buisness and have rubbed elbows and talked to everybody from celebs to janitors, ( you would be surprised how much a floor sweeper overhears, btw) but I care very much about Star Trek fans and i hate when we are taken advantage of ( which happens way too often by the way ) But in closing i just want to say that if Bakula wanted to sign autographs for $20 bucks a shot ( and im NOT suggesting he should) but if he did Creation would say UH, OKAY because what else could they say? Scott can do any convention he wants and Creation makes their money mostly from ticket sales and the actors keep the lions share of all auto sales ( kind of like how strippers basically work almost for free but keep all their tips ) anyway , i hope i havent offended anybody and i hope you all are well in the future

Well, I for one am offended that you think of us as gullible and naive. ?I am the least gullible and naive person you will ever want to find. My statements are coming from personal experience and knowledge. ?

I am sorry if you "hate" what I did when I passed along that comment from someone who knows the situation. I am not crazy about people who do that either. However, this was my decision. I am not trying to puff myself up to anyone. I simply do not want to say to whom I spoke, and I am sticking to it. Nevertheless, trust me, it is not a janitor.

I've dealt with Scott on a business level for over ten years. People I know, longer than that. He's not a gouger. He doesn't take advantage of his fans. If he were that kind of person, good grief, he would have done cons for years! He'd have an official website, an official fan club, an official newsletter; but he doesn't, and won't because he doesn't want to. Heck, this guy could have a lot more fan money lining his pockets!

So, if Creation is not the evil empire, it's the actors/strippers taking advantage of the fans? It was James Doohan, in his 80's, taking advantage of the fans when one year, Creation kept him at the autograph table way beyond when he was supposed to leave? The fans wouldn't accept an autograph mailed to them, so Creation kept him signing until Doohan's son had to finally put a stop to it?

It is the TOS guest stars and other Sci-Fi actors made to sit in the dealer's room along side people hawking dust collectors? Selling their signatures and dignity like another mug or poster? Sure, lots of taking advantage there.

Yeah, I'll blame Creation because I know their business reputation, and I know Scott's business reputation. I know who comes out ahead.

And by the way, Scott may not find the cure for cancer, but I have seen him help little old ladies across the street. :D


Donna

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 1:13 pm

As a Scott Bakula fan of long standing, I might be a little biased, but I can say for sure that he would NEVER rip off his fans to make a quick buck. I honestly believe that he has nothing to do with these prices, and is probably uneasy about the fact that Creation are taking the fans for all they are worth.

If any of you have a problem with the prices being charged for Scott's autograph and picture, I suggest that you take it up with Gary Berman and Creation, as they are the ones responsible for setting these prices.

As for fans being gullible to pay these prices - well, I've flown to the states to see Scott several times, and each trip cost more than people will be paying to get into the con and for the tickets to see Scott. Does that make me gullible too?  

I'm fortunate enough to have met Scott on many different occasions, and the only money I had to pay out was airfare and tickets to the charity events he was performing in. Not a single penny went into Scott's pocket, and every time, he stayed hours and signed autographs, for free. However, if I hadn't met Scott before, and this was the first opportunity I had, then you'd better believe that I would have been first in line to buy the tickets. Don't make this about the fans - this is Creation, and this is also why, after attending my first Creation con in 2002, I vowed that would be my last.

BTW, basically comparing Scott to a stripper working for tips? Classy. Not.

Jolando

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 3:52 pm

Quote (Trekwolf164 @ July 30 2006, 8:17 pm)
Quote (london1 @ July 30 2006, 5:56 pm)
What is truly sad about all this is that the greed is contagious, in a move no doubt inspired by Bakula, i see that Aron Eisenberg ( who played Nog on DS9 ) has just moved his price up from $15 to $17. Where will it end?

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

It will end when fans quit going to events and paying the prices demanded. But with 12,000 people attending the Las Vegas con, that won't happen any time soon. So Creation will keep setting the prices higher and higher, fans will keep paying the prices, and they will keep going to these events. Remember, if no one attended the con, Creation wouldn't get a penny nor would any actor at that con.

The world runs on supply and demand. Creation is supplying the talent. There is demand from the fans for that talent. The more the demand, the higher the pricing.

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 5:29 pm

I don't care who is responsible the Price was too high .I will get autographs and Photo's with Shatner and Nimoy and be very happy if Scott's price was similar I would have included him in my convention plans but to pay the same amount as my two childhood heroes combined was outrageous IMO.

london1

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Report this Aug. 10 2006, 6:02 pm

You guys are pathological, really worse off than i thought.....Except trekwolf.

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Report this Aug. 11 2006, 12:21 am

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Posted on Aug. 10 2006, 6:02 pm
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You guys are pathological, really worse off than i thought.....Except trekwolf


hmmmmmmmm, pathological, eh?

I'm not sure how it qualifies as pathological to relate our first hand experiences with the many times Scott Bakula has patiently - no graciously - autographed items and taken pictures with every single fan present in a venue, then called out to the group to make sure he had obliged everyone before he left. There was never, ever any currency required in any of those instances.

This is exactly what Scott has done, not one time, but at each and every occasion where fans were able to meet with him.

I live just outside DC and so was privileged to be in the audience for "Shenandoah" well over a dozen times. Cold, snowy or windy weather, ¿cast parties about to begin, family members waiting for him, barely an hour-and-a-half to eat and rest a bit between matinee' and evening performances, none of these circumstances deterred Scott from giving an autograph and/or taking a picture with every person who awaited him at the stage door - free of charge!

No bloody way would a person, who values and respects his fans the way Scott does, then proceed to gouge them.

Moreover, beckettslady received an answer directly from Scott's own people. Scott had no hand in setting prices for the photo ops or autographs in Las Vegas - not on your tintype!

beckettslady

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Report this Aug. 11 2006, 7:54 am

Quote (london1 @ Aug. 09 2006, 7:02 pm)
You guys are pathological, really worse off than i thought.....Except trekwolf.

Awww...c'mon.  Pathological?  Is that the best you can do? We've been called worse.   :laugh: And what happened to "this is my last post"?  :laugh:

Look, we'll just have to agree to disagree.   Let me know if you have a table at Vulkon, and I'll stop by and buy you a cup of tea or something.  


Donna

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Report this Aug. 11 2006, 9:50 am

'pathological'??

LOL!!! ¿Yeah, if not sitting back and letting inane comments go by unquestioned is called 'pathological', then I guess some of us may well be deemed that ¿;)

If you make a foolish comment, one that, by virtue of direct and personal knowledge others know to be untrue, why would you expect it not to be refuted?

Basically, you called Scott a greedy schmuck. You obviously anticipated others agreeing with you and lo and behold, found that your comment was totally without merit.

Instead of saying 'Oops, since so many of you seem to have firsthand knowledge that is not the case, maybe I overreacted. Perhaps I need to re-evaluate the situation,' you decided to call us 'pathological'.

"Uncontrolled or unreasonable"? Methinks you need to look in a mirror! :eyesroll:

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