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Temporal Mechanix

M16A4

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 3:03 am

i dont follow? what is that from?

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 3:22 am

wiki
time cube

i first heard about it from when they interviewed this nutcase on techtv

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 8:53 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ June 28 2006, 4:22 am)
wiki
time cube

i first heard about it from when they interviewed this nutcase on techtv

LOL are we sure that dyson is not behind this too. :laugh:

M16A4

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 5:54 pm

wow! can you say nut cases? im glad i am far away from him, although times like this makes me wish i was on vulcan with sane beings.

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 9:40 pm

i'm sure the techtv interview is on google video or YouTube. of course this was back in the golden day of TechTV when they had The Screensavers and Fresh Gear not the retarded bastard child SpikeTV clone that G4 turned it into.

M16A4

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 11:01 pm

yeah G4 is spike tv with video games. but wasnt spike tv TNN or TNT to begin with?

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Report this Jun. 29 2006, 11:13 pm

SpikeTV used to be The National Network (TNN)

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Report this Jul. 11 2006, 8:32 pm

time travel.  one of my favourite subjects.

here's a short paper, by me, on predicting the future.

I hypothesise that accurately predicting the future is of no practical use whatsoever! (an almost complete waste of a scientist's time)

I feel the need to put my vulcan ears on, just to attempt to think about this...

Our main problem is one of logic.

Side Note:
There is no absolutely accepted definition of the future.

At the moment it could mean any number of things such as:

1) a temporal distance foreward from this temproal point.
2) a blank canvas between now and eternity.
3) a chain of events from now to some point.
4) whatever will happen at a given temporal point.
5) a realm of unrealised possibilites...etc etc etc

and that's just the tip of the iceberg, and unfortunately it does affect the physics involved.

Main body:

However for the purposes of this paper:
I take "the future" to mean an event that will happen at point x along the timeline (stretching from now until eternity).

You may only accurately predict "the future" if you do not do anything to alter the outcome of that prediction by predicting it.

If you were to do something then you would not have predicted "the future" because by doing something you changed what was going to happen to something else.  That change would alter the prediction you made and thus would be different to "the future" so it would not have been an accurate prediction of "the future" because what you predicted wasn't what actually happened.  nor is it what would have happened (remember "the future" would contain what you predicted plus what you would do with that knowledge to result in the outcome that was "the future")

In order to accurately predict "the future", your prediction must not have any affects other than those which it was meant to have. (otherwise you only predicted a possible future)

It creates an almost infinite loop making accurate prediction of the future almost impossible. ie you have to make a prediction then include the actions of all the people who know of that prediction in order to get a more accurate prediction, then because that will have effects, you have to include their actions again, and so on until a point in which their or your actions do not affect the outcome in any way.

by predicting the future, you will likely try to do something to alter the outcome to make it different from that prediction thus meaning you cannot predict "the future"

Human beings at present, can see the future, but only in miniscule periods of time.  we get snapshots in the form of hyper accurate premonitions.  Which reappear as dejavous AS the chain of events you saw in your premonition unfolds infront of you (thus preventing you from changing them)  An accurate premonition does not last long enough to be of any practical use because of the nature of accurately predicting "the future".

Any actual futures predicted will be exactly what they will be, meaning there is nothing you can do with the knowledge you gain, to alter it.  Thus defeating most of the practical advantages to knowing "the future"

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Report this Jul. 11 2006, 11:14 pm

paradoxes cause headaches for all parties involved  please dont write about them, my head hurts enough all ready.

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Report this Jul. 12 2006, 4:42 am

i predicted that i would respond to this thread again... hurray i'm psychic!

M16A4

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Report this Jul. 12 2006, 5:25 pm

lol

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Report this Jul. 14 2006, 4:47 am

Isn't gravity simply a curvature of spacetime created by the mass of an object, rather than a force, as described in Newtonian type physics. I don't claim to know everything either, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Report this Jul. 14 2006, 4:51 am

On the topic of time based things, Does anyone believe that quantum entanglement could be used to teleport a person to another location?

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Report this Jul. 14 2006, 5:33 am

Quote (Syrus @ July 14 2006, 1:51 am)
On the topic of time based things, Does anyone believe that quantum entanglement could be used to teleport a person to another location?

i don't think so

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