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Star SEALS

Commodore_Jeremy_Sparrow

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Report this Mar. 26 2006, 2:19 pm

these guys are just like the freakin MACO Rangers. The elite ground soldiers. Capable of no more than most US Navy SEALs

Commodore_Jeremy_Sparrow

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Report this Mar. 26 2006, 2:55 pm

Desperate times = desperate measures
they are only deployed in the most critical of times

Angel_of_Shadows

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Report this Mar. 27 2006, 1:42 am

Shuttle makes an excellent point. There's no time more desperate than war, and since we never saw such commandos during the Dominion War, it is safe to assume that Starfleet does not have them.

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Report this Mar. 28 2006, 12:31 pm

While that may be true the Admirals at the time were old sticks in the mud. Newer more radical Admirals would obviously be promoted after the deaths of some of those Admirals undoubtedly at the hands of the Dominion. And they would see the new commandos as a deterrant against future enemies. They are also useful against enemies such as the Borg. A single Lakota class armory/Marine/SEAL ship can be used to take on several spheres, or a single tactical cube and by jumping around through transwarp can evade the Borg while troops using the new shield penetrating transporters assault the Borg. And to clear things up, the ship is nothing new, nor have i invented any new weapons. Anything i have placed in their armament is from either games or shows.

These guys are just a more mobile version of Hazard team with the capabilities for other forms of combat as well. SUch as fighting in any environment rather than primarily space.

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 11:29 am

its been seen time and time again. New ideas meet extremely difficult walls. Such as the introduction of the submarine into the world's navies. it was the most devestating naval weapon of WWII. And yet no one believe its potential except a few brave pioneers

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 12:48 pm

Dont you get this.... ok the Defiant and Sovereign classes which are essentially warships becuase of their armament were developed in response to threat. Well as a safeguard the SEALs are being developed

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 1:00 pm

The Sovereign is an explorer. The Defiant is an escort.

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 1:01 pm

if you remember thats just for the paperwork. Even Sisko admitted it.
They are warships.

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 1:07 pm

No they're not.

The Defiant, maybe. It was designed to fight the Borg.

The Sovereign? Nope. It's an exploratory cruiser, not a warship.

Commodore_Jeremy_Sparrow

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Report this Mar. 29 2006, 1:49 pm

yeah just like the Dreadnought is. They called the Excelsior an exploration ship but in reality with its armament it was a battlecruiser

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Report this Mar. 30 2006, 11:57 am

Quote (kahlessalpha1 @ Mar. 29 2006, 1:49 pm)
yeah just like the Dreadnought is. They called the Excelsior an exploration ship but in reality with its armament it was a battlecruiser

The Excelsior was a battle cruiser youre correct..BUT.

It was also an exploration/science vessel. Its sensors were superior to the uprated Constitution vessels which it replaced, allowing it to act better in an exploratory capacity.

Whether or not the Sovereign is designed with exploration in mind is circumspect as it was designed as a Borg killer..so exploration might have took a poor second place.

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Report this Mar. 30 2006, 12:29 pm

now while the Dreadnought is capable of taking on basically any ship weve seen in combat as yet (not including the Dominion's full capabilities with their standoff cruisers and battleships) it's enemies are far more powerful. A Ghoul destroyer of equal age to a Constitution would annihilate the Connie. A modern Ghoul destroyer is approximately equal to a single Defiant class. Although with quantums and on a pure out for blood basis the Defiant could destroy it with relatively little problem. However nothing Starfleet has could take on a Ghoul battleship or battlecruiser. And unless i have the backup of First Fleet even Dreadnought will not attack a battleship of theirs.

And the only reason I named the ship Dreadnought is becuase it was the name of the first "modern" warship of the real current age.

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Report this Mar. 30 2006, 12:45 pm

my new enemies. A race of 7 and a half foot tall aliens, pale grey skin, with glowing red eyes. Very fast and very strong, as well as amazingly intelligent. Their fleet is relatively small in numbers but with ships of extremely powerful ships. They are hell bent on total destruction of all who do not share their race. And have annihilated three powerful species in a distant part of Crusader Fleet's galaxy. These guys are powerful and they dotn give up. Their sort of a cross between species from ST, SW, Stargate, and a few others.

Their physical form is similar to a Gorn's but they have blade like razor sharp bones on their wrists and tails

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Report this Mar. 31 2006, 5:24 am

Came to think of it this idea does not suited for the star trek universe but more for a parallel universe (like the one i have created but it wouldn't work as there was no USA)

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Report this Mar. 31 2006, 2:04 pm

It is a distant galaxy but a spatial rift launched all of Crusader Fleet which had united to fight the Ghoul. And the Ghoul fleet went with them. The Star SEALs originated as members of Crusader Fleet but later became a freelance organization

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