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"Science AND Religion" vs "Science OR Religion"

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 4:47 am

The bulk of christians, however do not follow the ways of their founder. WWJD has become empty words to many. Many people say this is their creed but are ignorant of what their holy book says and unwilling to discuss their beliefs. How many terrible things have been committed or condoned by dishonest and immoral priests. That was gandhi's point and its a valid one. There are plenty of good christians but there are far more who wear the label but do not understand or blatantly disregard its moral code.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 6:42 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Sep. 21 2010, 4:47 am

The bulk of christians, however do not follow the ways of their founder. WWJD has become empty words to many. Many people say this is their creed but are ignorant of what their holy book says and unwilling to discuss their beliefs. How many terrible things have been committed or condoned by dishonest and immoral priests. That was gandhi's point and its a valid one. There are plenty of good christians but there are far more who wear the label but do not understand or blatantly disregard its moral code.


A person is a christian or they are not. A person will be judged according to their God and not a person. The obligation is with self and no one can live another person's life, or even control it in all true context. Ghandi has his own skeletons, even division. Ghandi was a person and now is dead, just like all other's that presumed to be great but are reduced to the ground. The the word of God survives and will live forever. Only truth remains at the surface, there peace harmony dominated with love will reside. The Universe relys on it!

It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 7:08 am

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The bulk of christians, however do not follow the ways of their founder. WWJD has become empty words to many. Many people say this is their creed but are ignorant of what their holy book says and unwilling to discuss their beliefs. How many terrible things have been committed or condoned by dishonest and immoral priests. That was gandhi's point and its a valid one. There are plenty of good christians but there are far more who wear the label but do not understand or blatantly disregard its moral code.
True.


True to WWJD?

Some personalisation for not knowing how to spell?

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Wildish

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 12:59 pm

I like to think of myself as a true christian, though I no longer beleve in church as such, to me the home of god is my heart, I beleve in science as a way to gain knowlage of what is around us and to comprehend what is as we know it... that is where we have for good or ill free thought in our minds and it for us to decide for ourselves what we beleve, put another way if Christ met Budda would they have argued over who was right, I doubt it very much, as one would learn from the other and respect each other as we all should...


"In the valley of the blind, the one eyed man is king."

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 22 2010, 11:58 am

I think the admins just need to open a theology board, lol. Or just change ' technology' to ' theology'.

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Report this Sep. 23 2010, 11:45 am

I´ll second that :-)


If there is nothing wrong with me, then maybe there´s something wrong with the universe? -Dr. Crusher

FirveraneIrwin

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Report this Sep. 23 2010, 7:00 pm

I call myself a philosophical Daoist due to its open nature. I like to look at things from multiple perspectives, because there is no steadfast way to look at anything, especially science and religion. That and, as a wise woman told me once, "you don't see philosophers going into holy wars, do you?"


"I'm a doctor, not a physicist!" --McCoy.

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Report this Sep. 23 2010, 7:06 pm

We succeed together in a greater whole.

bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Oct. 01 2010, 4:22 am

Quote: Wildish @ Sep. 21 2010, 12:59 pm

I like to think of myself as a true christian, though I no longer beleve in church as such, to me the home of god is my heart, I beleve in science as a way to gain knowlage of what is around us and to comprehend what is as we know it... that is where we have for good or ill free thought in our minds and it for us to decide for ourselves what we beleve, put another way if Christ met Budda would they have argued over who was right, I doubt it very much, as one would learn from the other and respect each other as we all should...



Researching scripture will get the heart correct. It's "fail-safe."

It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Oct. 01 2010, 4:26 am

 


It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Oct. 01 2010, 4:30 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Sep. 21 2010, 4:47 am

>The bulk of christians, however do not follow the ways of their founder. WWJD has become empty words to many. Many people say this is their creed but are ignorant of what their holy book says and unwilling to discuss their beliefs. How many terrible things have been committed or condoned by dishonest and immoral priests. That was gandhi's point and its a valid one. There are plenty of good christians but there are far more who wear the label but do not understand or blatantly disregard its moral code.
People are 'Christian' or they are not. Labelling as an excuse for bad behaviour . You can always tell me what a "christian" belief is?


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DragonStorm

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Report this Oct. 04 2010, 6:17 am

Religion is nothing but anouther form of government. Religion has nothing to do with spirtuality or anything of that nature.

Tureaz'47

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Report this Oct. 07 2010, 2:44 am

Quote: DragonStorm @ Oct. 04 2010, 6:17 am

Religion is nothing but anouther form of government. Religion has nothing to do with spirtuality or anything of that nature.



That is correct!
When done correctly, they support each other. Religion and spirituality go hand in hand and are not apart.

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miklamar

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Report this Dec. 01 2010, 12:31 am

I think science and religion are compatible.  Actually, I think that--if you mean religion as the universal understanding of life--science would be a subset of religion.  If you mean "religion" as rituals, then both science and "religion" would be subsets of universal truth, which I believe all lead to God, one Creator.


Unfortunately, many adherents from each group refuse to acknowledge the other group or the validity of even some of its tenets.  If we are open-minded and patient, though, the truth will be revealed.


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

Tureaz'47

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Report this Dec. 21 2010, 9:01 pm

^ humans do not hold the answers to the Universe and it doesn't matter how science conscience and trained a person. All knowledge is limited to whom teaches it, which extends to all. Morals are above such things and respect science and is the true science, perhaps? The only way to know, is to "test" all theories on a continuous basis. "correct" is transparent and will help us to understand wrong, which will be the tested using foresight with faith of the end result for the purpose.


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