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Feb. 11 2006, 8:35 pm
I'd like to see that huge federation station that orbits earth to be in the game, even though I'm not too sure of its name, or if its still around. It was in a movie where the enterprise flew out from inside the station. It looked as though the station housed tens of thousands of Star Fleet personnel. Since it seems the station acted as a space dock/shipyard and probably also as a starfleet training facility, I'd imagine it would fit quite nicely into STO. The latest info from PE expressed the need and use of 'hubs'...well I think you couldnt get more perfect a hub than that station. To see half a dozen ships docked inside and to have a place where literally thousands of people could hang out and go about their buisness would be awesome (incase you have no idea what I'm talking about) insideinside 2outsideEDIT - found better ones 123456*789 |
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Feb. 11 2006, 9:07 pm
I think this will be in the game, as one of the space ports in space.
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Feb. 11 2006, 9:28 pm
it better be, it wouldnt make any sense not to put it in there since thats teh earth starbase, there are others like this one around the quadrant.
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Feb. 11 2006, 9:37 pm
I could see there being a bit of a problem in actually creating the thing...its huge. But I think it would be worth the devs time to create this station since it can be used for so many things.
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Feb. 11 2006, 11:25 pm
I think this was at least for a while the common design for spacedocks. I could be wrong but I think I remember seeing this/similar stations on different occasions and places. If there will be one of those still around earth or if it's been replaced by a different, more modern type... I don't know. But the general design should still be found at least at different places.
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Feb. 12 2006, 4:48 am
Thats the station where a lot of ships are launched such as the enterprise d was i think voyager however was actually launched at deep space 9 but im not sure
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Feb. 12 2006, 5:00 am
Ships are usually launched from their respective space yards. This has been shown with the Enterprise Refit, Enterprise-B, Voyager and NX-01.
The only ships to have been shown in the space dock were the Excelsior and the Enterprise-A. This is most likely due to the fact that they were been stationed there following their construction at their respective yard.
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Feb. 12 2006, 5:11 am
"It" is called Spacedock.
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Feb. 12 2006, 4:01 pm
| Quote (lucky326 @ Feb. 11 2006, 4:48 pm) | | Thats the station where a lot of ships are launched such as the enterprise d was i think voyager however was actually launched at deep space 9 but im not sure |
Voyager was built and launched at McKinley station from what I remember. DS9 doesn't have the capabilities to build a ship much bigger than a shuttle imo As far as the Enterprise D goes: in the episode where they get trapped by some power drain field and Geordi works on the holodeck with the prototype engine it does look like one of those spacedocks if you look through the windows (or just the hull and decks were built somewhere else, and the interior was then built in somewhere else, just as possible) |
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Feb. 12 2006, 4:47 pm
| Quote (Philipp1980 @ Feb. 12 2006, 1:01 pm) | | Quote (lucky326 @ Feb. 11 2006, 4:48 pm) | | Thats the station where a lot of ships are launched such as the enterprise d was i think voyager however was actually launched at deep space 9 but im not sure |
Voyager was built and launched at McKinley station from what I remember. DS9 doesn't have the capabilities to build a ship much bigger than a shuttle imo
As far as the Enterprise D goes: in the episode where they get trapped by some power drain field and Geordi works on the holodeck with the prototype engine it does look like one of those spacedocks if you look through the windows (or just the hull and decks were built somewhere else, and the interior was then built in somewhere else, just as possible) |
No, you're right. 1701-D was built at Utopia Planitia, moved to one of the docks in Earth orbit (probably McKinley Station), and from there commissioned, staffed, and launched on her maiden voyage. To be clear, Earth Station McKinley and Earth Spacedock are not shipbuilding facilities - they're repair docks, although Earth Spacedock obviously serves many other functions. The only major shipyards are Utopia Planitia, San Francisco Fleet Yards and Oakland Fleet Yards. (Although really, when you consider how close Oakland and SF really are, can there really be two different facilities?) |
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Feb. 12 2006, 8:50 pm
San Francisco shipyards are actually in orbit, they only get the name from the city their administration sits in. Oakland shipyards... not sure, all I found was this small piece of information http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Oakland_Fleet_YardsSince it mentions an alternate timeline and the future, the oakland yards could maybe simply replace the san francisco yards at one point in the future, or be just the same facility, renamed for some reason? Then again, that souce gives so few information, maybe a different one would provide us with more data on that However, http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Federation_shipyards does mention several other shipyards that were mentioned throughout the series, so I guess there are more than the three you mentioned. But how strange those information sometimes seem becomes clear once you read the short article about the antares shipyards there (the part where it's presumably located in the bajoran sector - why would starfleet operate a shipyard in a territory that is not officially part of federation space at that time?) |
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Feb. 12 2006, 8:56 pm
one of my favorite DS9 ep's was when they went to a different Cardassian station to get parts and they mostly knew where everything was, but some things were different.
They could do the same thing with this one, Command deck would be in the same spot as well as a few other things, but on different stations there would be different things.
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Feb. 12 2006, 9:49 pm
| Quote (Philipp1980 @ Feb. 12 2006, 5:50 pm) | San Francisco shipyards are actually in orbit, they only get the name from the city their administration sits in.
Oakland shipyards... not sure, all I found was this small piece of information
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Oakland_Fleet_Yards
Since it mentions an alternate timeline and the future, the oakland yards could maybe simply replace the san francisco yards at one point in the future, or be just the same facility, renamed for some reason?
Then again, that souce gives so few information, maybe a different one would provide us with more data on that
However, http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Federation_shipyards does mention several other shipyards that were mentioned throughout the series, so I guess there are more than the three you mentioned.
But how strange those information sometimes seem becomes clear once you read the short article about the antares shipyards there (the part where it's presumably located in the bajoran sector - why would starfleet operate a shipyard in a territory that is not officially part of federation space at that time?) |
Oh, to be sure, there are more shipyards than these in the Federation - but these appear to be the only ones in Sol, aside from Utopia Planitia. Thanks for pointing that out about the Oakland Yards. To me, it sounds as if a writer for "Endgame" (which famously got pasted together at the very last minute, in a manner befitting a ham sandwich), made a simple historical mistake or perhaps was giving a shout-out to their hometown. As an outside possibility, they may have been offering an homage to DS9's "The Changing Face of Evil" and the destruction of San Francisco/Starfleet Command. On the subject of Antares Ship Yards, listing their location in the Bajor system would have to be a mistake on the part of the dedication plaque. There's just simply no way that 1701- B would've been built there, nor that there would've been a massive shipyard facility in a system the Cardassians occupied for decades. Never mind the fact that the place was never, ever mentioned during the rest of DS9's run. |
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Feb. 12 2006, 9:59 pm
Yeah, you are completely right. I guess some of the script writers aren't as familiar with canon as we are  If you only count shipyards in eath solar system I guess you are almost right then. Memory Alpha lists the Copernicus shipyards in orbit of the moon, so if we just add this to your list we should be fine  |
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Feb. 12 2006, 10:12 pm
| Quote (Philipp1980 @ Feb. 12 2006, 6:59 pm) | Yeah, you are completely right. I guess some of the script writers aren't as familiar with canon as we are
If you only count shipyards in eath solar system I guess you are almost right then. Memory Alpha lists the Copernicus shipyards in orbit of the moon, so if we just add this to your list we should be fine |
I'll go with that. The real point I was trying to make is that Earth Station McKinley and Earth Spacedock aren't actually shipyards. |
