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How do you polarize the hull plating ?

Vold

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Report this Oct. 25 2005, 9:29 pm

Here's something that really don't make sense.

When Picard jump over the Borg. The air vent did not push him away.
:D

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 11:58 am

Quote (Vold @ Oct. 24 2005, 7:29 pm)
Here's something that really don't make sense.

When Picard jump over the Borg. The air vent did not push him away.
:D

Some how we drift far away from the whole polarize plating thing.. ;)

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 3:15 pm

the hull was polarized so picard wasn't blown off into space when he drifted over the vent. i don't think it was air, it's more likely to be plasma as it is the deflector dish (or the area around it)

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 4:29 pm

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the hull was polarized so picard wasn't blown off into space when he drifted over the vent. i don't think it was air, it's more likely to be plasma as it is the deflector dish (or the area around it)

Was it the hull, I throught it was the boots?

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 5:28 pm

Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 26 2005, 1:29 pm)
Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Oct. 25 2005, 1:15 pm)
the hull was polarized so picard wasn't blown off into space when he drifted over the vent. i don't think it was air, it's more likely to be plasma as it is the deflector dish (or the area around it)

Was it the hull, I throught it was the boots?

In Elite Force 2.
After the Ent series came out.

Hull polarizing is involved in the 24th Century as well. As the next form of defense when Shields are down.

so its possible for them to use it for vatious reasons.

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 8:54 pm

Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 26 2005, 4:29 pm)
Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Oct. 25 2005, 1:15 pm)
the hull was polarized so picard wasn't blown off into space when he drifted over the vent. i don't think it was air, it's more likely to be plasma as it is the deflector dish (or the area around it)

Was it the hull, I throught it was the boots?

he turned off his magboots when he jumped across the dish

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 8:57 pm

Something I was wondering.

Can we assume structural integrity as "Polarizing the Hull"?

because everytime the shield goes down, they order to increase structural integrity.

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 10:14 pm

could be, but increasing structural integrity applies to the load bearing bulkheads internal to the ship also

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Report this Oct. 26 2005, 10:16 pm

maybe, there's 2 parts. :)

magnetizing to hold the ship together, lol

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Report this Oct. 27 2005, 2:08 am

the polarization in the magnetic field over the ship aligns the particles in the hull to make it stronger...

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Report this Oct. 29 2005, 3:07 pm

Janeway used Hull Polarization to mask her aproach in "Equinox" - i diddnt see the episode , i read about this . How can polarizing the hull make you harder to spot ? Shouldent it be the oposite ? :bored:

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Report this Oct. 29 2005, 8:04 pm

Quote (Major_Vol @ Oct. 28 2005, 1:07 pm)
Janeway used Hull Polarization to mask her aproach in "Equinox" - i diddnt see the episode , i read about this . How can polarizing the hull make you harder to spot ? Shouldent it be the oposite ? :bored:

actually that goes back to Plasmons, there was a scientist that reported that by using these moving waves of electrons you can actually make the a craft invisible to radar and other form of electromagnetic energy.

"Now you see me, now you don't
Judy Skatssoon
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Tuesday, 1 March 2005


A plasmon shield could make things invisible, researchers say (Image: iStockphoto)
An invisible shield that makes objects vanish has been proposed by scientists who say their idea obeys the laws of physics.

The shield would be a metallic structure, much like the shielding used by the Romulans in Star Trek who hid their spaceships by pushing a button.

Electronic engineers Andrea Aly and Professor Nader Engheta from the University of Pennsylvania say their proposed "plasmonic shield" is just an idea at this stage.

They report their calculations on the arXiv physics website, which is owned and operated by Cornell University in New York.

They say their shield would use the special properties of plasmons, clouds of electrons that move within metallic material.

Plasmons would be used to cancel out the light that is scattered from, or bounces off, objects, which would normally allow an object to be seen.

Aly and Engheta reason that if the frequency of the shield's so-called plasmon resonance, or the frequency at which the electron cloud oscillates, is close to the frequency of the light, then the object disappears.

The mystery of the vanishing chocolates

"If you tune the wave of the light to the same frequency of the plasmon it will absorb the light," says Dr Ian Falconer, an Australian plasma physicist from the University of Sydney.

"The light effectively goes straight through it and whatever is in the shield can't be seen."

Falconer says the concept is like chocolates.

"If you had an M&M in which the outer coating was plasmon you wouldn't see the M&M because the light would effectively go through it, but you would see the plate it was on," he says.

"The light actually is absorbed but the plasmon coating makes it come out the back as if there was nothing there."

The shield would need fine-tuning

However, critics say the shield would have to be finely tuned for each object it hides and a shield would only work for a particular wavelength of light.

And the effect only works when the wavelength of the light being scattered is roughly the same size as the object.

Falconer says the technology couldn't be used to shield humans because the wavelength of natural light is far too short compared with the size of a human.

It could theoretically be used to hide spaceships or other large objects from sensors using long wavelength radiation instead of ordinary light, the researchers say.

More realistically, it could be used to create anti-glare materials or invisible probes for use in microscopy, say the researchers, whose research received funding from the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. "

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Report this Nov. 03 2005, 2:00 am

Voyager polarized their hull in "Fury" to loosen the Viddian's grip on the ship.

Chakotay: "Reverse the hull polarity. Maybe we can shake them loose."
Kim: "Hull polarity loosened their hold, but not by much."

asking for a reverse, already suggest there was a normal one.
:)

are there any other episodes from any series (other than Enterprise) that shows hull polarization?

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