Star Trek

In 2379, a Reman Praetor named Shinzon seized control of the Romulan Star Empire. The coup was defeated by the crew of the Enterprise-E, opening up the possibility of improved UFP/Romulan relations.

That is what is said from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Now we know the game is set 20 years after that event, so knowing the year, what events do you see happening around that time?

From 2379 to 2550, there is a big gap in events of the Federation, but knowing what happened in Nemisis, and what is wrtten in books, what in your mind is going on in 2399?

Lets have a little fun on this one guys.

Alternate Timelines: food for thought.

Yes but like you point out, those are alternate timelines, and the events on them didn't happen one the current timeline STO is following.

So with the alternate timeline events not coming to past, how do you see things shaping out in STO on the current timeline?

Long Time Lurker that just got incredibly energized by the Images from perpetual.


Possible events:

Really, I think you have to have the Breen as the dark force.  We learned almost nothing about them.  If you own the Star Charts (BTW, an enjoyable look through if bought used), they hold this amorphous space north of the Cardassians.  The Romulans are so very insular that I wouldn't be surprised if another Tomed Incident didn't pop up and bring another diplomatic freeze, with the occasional border crossings just to see what the Federation will do.  The Klingons are just surly

I think that the Cardassians would have joined the Federation.  They have a sociological need for order too badly to resist the "insidious" way that the Federation acquires members.  I imagine that the Federation has been in relative peace, minor skirmishes with the Romulans and the Tholians and the Breen.

What then, pray tell, would be the big event that starts of STO?  I think a major attack demolishes the peace time fleet, causing Starfleet to "recruit" a new batch of ensigns (All of us of course) to figure out who did it.  Naturally, we would think it would be the Breen, and plenty of missions would take place near or in Breen space, but it will turn out to be some newly created race that challenges them like no other since the Borg. (Or maybe it is  the same people that built the Spheres?)



But what do I know?  It is just the insane rambling of a man excited  


Quark: I know. It's so bubbling, and cloying, and happy.
Garak: Just like the Federation.
Quark: But you know what's really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
Garak: It's insidious.
Quark: Just like the Federation.
Garak and Quark discussing rootbeer, Way of the Warrior

What would be cool is on the one year aniversary we could have a happy 25th century party...

MrTyres I like your idea. It would bring a nice story to ST.
I belive PE has allready their story and this are no more then speculations.

I was holodeckin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
But when I woke up this mornin'
Coulda sworn it was judgment day
The sky was all purple,
there were starships warpin' everywhere
Tryin' 2 run from the destruction,
U know I didn't even care

'Cuz they say twenty-four-zero-zero party over,
oops out of space-time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 2399!

I was mind-meldiin' when I wrote this
So sue me if I go 2 fast
But life is just a party, and parties weren't meant 2 last
Galactic War is all around us, my C.O. says prepare 2 fight
So if I gotta die I'm gonna listen 2 my body tonight

Yeah, they say twenty-four-zero-zero party over,
oops out of space-time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 2399

Lemme tell ya somethin'
If U didn't come 2 party,
don't bother beepin' at my door
I got a tribble in my pocket,
and baby he's ready 2 roar
Yeah, everybody's got a phaser,
we could all die any day
But before I'll let that happen,
I'll dance my life away

Oh, they say twenty-four-zero-zero party over,
oops out of space-time
We're runnin' outta space-time (Tonight I'm gonna)
So tonight we gonna (party like it's 2399)
we gonna, oww!

Say it 1 more time
Twenty-four-zero-zero party over oops,
out of space-time
No, no (Tonight I'm gonna)
So tonight we gonna (party like it's 2399)
we gonna, oww

Alright, it's 2399
You say it, 2399
2399
2399 don't stop, don't stop, say it 1 more time
Twenty-four-zero-zero party over,
oops out of space-time
Yeah, yeah (Tonight I'm gonna)
So tonight we gonna (party like it's 2399)
we gonna, oww

Yeah, 2399 (2399)
Don'tcha wanna go (2399)
Don'tcha wanna go (2399)
We could all die any day (2399)
I don't wanna die,
I'd rather dance my life away (2399)
Listen 2 what I'm tryin' 2 say
Everybody, everybody say party
C'mon now, U say party
That's right, everybody say (Party)
Can't run from the Reman Invasion, no (Party)
Sing it 4 your Federation y'all (Party)
Tell me what you're singin', baby say (Party)
Subspace Channel's a-ringin', mama (Party)
C'mon, c'mon, U say (Party)
Everybody, [two times] (Party)
Work it down 2 the landing site, say (Party)
(Party)
Come on, take my body, baby (Party)
That's right, c'mon, sing the song (Party)
(Party)
That's right (Party)
Got a tribble in my pocket mama, say (Party)
Oh, and he's ready 2 roar (Party)

Mommy, why does everybody have a phaser?

First off,

Niles, wow.
Tyres, coolness.

More speculation! Woo!

Okay, so maybe the Dominion has regrouped and expanded, becoming 'nicer' since Odo joined the link. (pansyfied) There could be some kind of peace treaty (more than non-agression) and maybe even cultural exchange by that time. (NPCs mind you.)

Klingons, why not have them have an alliance with the Federation? They would probably still be rebuilding their fleet due to the Dominion war (Sloan said this to Bashir in the DS9 episode with a latin name (In time of war the law is silent) ) They wouldn't be a military threat, but the empire, along with Romulan empire, are only on the edge of the beta quadrant. How many other species or empires are there to yet be discovered or explored, or conquered, in the case of the Klingon empire. They could be busy conquering a beta quadrant empire. That would leave them out of Federation affairs for a while.

Romulans, meh. Throw a wrench in the cogs of preconception and have them sign a peace treaty with the Federation. It seems about time. (400 years of hostility would probably be a little long. Klingons are meaner and they have a treaty with the Feds. Yes I know it was because they had to because of Praxis, but why not have an event happen to which the new Senate and Praetor make serious reforms in government? It's happened like that all over the World. Russia, for example. Germany, who once was a fierce Nazi controlled country now is in good relations with the US and other European states.) Reform in the senate is not unlikely, nor is it unrealistic.

Tholians, why not have their presence pop up again? Why not have them, in the concern for their internal affairs, becoming emperical or expansionistic? 25th C Tholian vessels should look pretty cool.

Gorn, same thing, or have them join the Klingons or Federation. Stellar Cartography shows their space by Klingon and Federation. They may be better at joining the Klingons.

Cardassians wouldn't be a threat probably for another hundred years. Their population, military, and economic power was basically decimated towards the end of the Dominion war. I doubt they would have a presence in the galactic battleground for a while.

The Federation could well expand in 20 years. Cartography has some big gaps for the federation to expand, as well as pockets that it has started outside of the main cluster of Federation worlds. The core worlds could increase in power, and capitals could be set on multiple worlds, the high capital being on Earth, in Paris. Colonies could abound, and old colonies becoming huge worlds with billions of people on them. (see america. It wasn't heavily populated, but the colonies eventually grew to 500 million, and became a power that it is today.) Those worlds could be major trade centers and cultural exchange places. Since they were formed on Federation ideals, they could become examples of the Federation system, shining examples. (we tend to think of colonies as small, but after nearly 100 years, it could grow MUCH MUCH faster than colonized places on earth.) New Starships created because of new worlds with new technologies accepted into the Federation. Not only would the Federation have bounced back, but would have bounced back with force, maintaining an all around peace with the galactic neighbors.

Now, you're saying "why would everyone be at peace?" well, think of it. If a new threat that rivaled the Borg hit the galaxy, it could make for juicy storylines. Peace held together by a thread could break, inter-empire war could result, the galaxy thrown into chaos. New alliances (diff than non agression peace treaties. Heck, a Federation/Dominion alliance! ), new enemies, old enemies resurfacing, basically an organic system of storylines that create new terrible problems for not only the Federation but everyone else in the galaxy. It would be a set up for the storyline. Hmmmm...

I was thinking the Romulan Empire went into chaos. Part of the Empire (small part) allies with the federation, while an Emporer takes control of the rest. (remember the senate was disolved) HOwever there is no war yet. Then The Romulans send in a peace group of warbirds to a federation starbase. But, instead of peace one of the warbirds is evacuated on to the others very quickly. And it explodes inside the federation starbase. Which btw is a major defensive station, defending the border sectors. So then cloaked romulan ships ..uncloak and start to invade the Federation.

Lol, sorry for the brief story. But i made this a long time ago and was very, very descriptive. If I could find it again i wouldve copy & paste.

That would be interesting. A Romulan civil war that actually splits the empire. It'd take the Klingon civil war and times it by 50. That would be coolness, and make for an interesting expansion when people are allowed to play Romulans.

NilesCaulder wow good work.

Miguelito it seems like a nice posible outcome and STOCaptain01 that's a good and posible alternative.

Nice thread.

I love these speculation threads. It's cool to think of what might happen in 20+ years since Nemesis.

You know, I'm likin' the Romulan Empire disintigration idea...having the border flake off into the arms of the Federation (and permit Romulan PCs) while still retaining the best 'bad guys' around for a while.  The Federation will have the momentum on their side for a protracted assimilation of Romulan assets over a generation or more...but it'd be a hot war the whole time running.  (Perhaps an assymetrical one before too long?)---all in the glorious name of reclaiming their 'rightful territory' from 'invaders.'

Then the Children of Tamar surprise attack the Federation from the Alpha flank and conquer the quandrant for a millenia.  You gotta admit, it makes sense....    

Hmm, then they are overrun by the Tholians and the Federation breaks free and destroys Tama and the Tholians until they're crystal paperweights...

riight...lets get back to real thinking pls lol.