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Are there other ranks below Ensign in Star Trek?

SirCedric2

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 1:13 pm

I know not much is talked about or seen of other ranks below Ensign, but in Starfleet do they still use lower ranks? If so what would you think they are?

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 1:31 pm

Ensign is the lowest Officer rank, there are a whole host of Non-Commissioned Officer ranks and enlisted crew ranks 'below' Ensign (though high ranking enlisted crew and NCO's can still 'outrank' an Ensign based on experience and so on)

SirCedric2

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 1:43 pm

Ok another question then. Are there any Non-Commission Officers on the Ships? Reason why I am asking. If there is an option to not go though the Academy when you start the game, then will we start off in the Non-com ranks? Seeing how people that finish the Academy start off as Ensigns.

Sirol

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 1:47 pm

Yes, NCOs serve on ships; O'Brien was on the Enterprise before DS9.  As far as players starting off as enlisted in the game, I doubt it, though it could be possible.

SirCedric2

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 1:53 pm

Oh Great so that means we will have to finish the Academy in the game, before we can be an Ensign. If not then we will be NCOs all the way hehe. Not that it's a bad thing, after all not everyone will want to be in the Command ranks.

Sirol

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 2:34 pm

Who says you will have to go to the Academy?  Who says you can't start off as an Ensign with the assumption that you just completed the Academy?  For example, you can bypass the tutorial in EQ2; doing so, you start off as a level 3 character.  The first time you play, you may want to view the tutorial.  When you create another character, you could choose to bypass it and get straight to the action.

JazH

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 2:48 pm

Cadet?

SirCedric2

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 3:13 pm

Well I am just hoping PE doesn't have it setup if you don't go though the Academy, then your a NCO, if you do go your an Ensign.

Oh BTW Cadets are Acadmey students I believe.

HazMat

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 4:32 pm

Actually, I believe PE stated that everyone starts at the Academy.

Although, they didn't mention about the possibility of dropping out.   hmmmm

STOCaptain01

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 4:40 pm

The Academy will probably be like the Tutorial when you first start them game.

Suricata

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 4:42 pm

I've actually heard the term 'midshipman' used in Star Trek a few times (which would be the equvilant rank to ensign).

Sirol

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Report this Apr. 28 2005, 9:27 am

A 'midshipman' is a cadet at the Naval Academy.  I don't think Star Trek would've changed the definition as drastically as it meaning the same as Ensign.

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Report this Apr. 28 2005, 3:38 pm

Rank's in Star Trek, as per the "official" sources, sanctioned by Paramount.

Commissioned Line:
Ensign
Lt. J.G.
Lieutenant
Lt. Commander
Commander
Captain

Commissioned Flag:
Commodore
Fleet Capt
Branch Admiral
Rear Admiral
Admiral
Admiral of Starfleet

Non-Commissioned:
Recruit
Specialist
Specialist 2nd class
Specialist 1st class
Chief Specialist
Petty Offifcer
Petty Officer 1st class
Chief Petty
Master Chieff Petty
Master Chief Petty of Starfleet

For NCO's who need officer-lvl ranks, such as cargo shuttle pilots and other tasks that require that lvl of Authority:
Warrant
Warrant 1st
Chief Warrant
Master Warrant

Midshipman is a Sr Cadet, one who has earned "rank" while in the academy and, as such, is worthy of a title beyond Cadet.  For example, the head of Red Squadron was a Midshipman, as was Peter Preston, Engineer's Mate on Enterprise (Scotty's nephew).

For those of you who who care...
Romulan Commissioned Ranks:
Singnum
Equatoriam
Secundam
Trinam
Centurion
Sub-Commander
Commander
Sub-Admiral
Admiral

And, a quiz to find the true geeks...what are these ranks (they're in order, lowest to highest)?
Chak
Chakev
Shaklas
Uratlol
Atlol
Tloll
Urtlolev
Tlolev

Jediwheels

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Report this Apr. 28 2005, 4:21 pm

MacAllen, those last ranks you posted are Andorian,
but I would ask you what source(s) you are referring to for your other rank information; I was under the impression that commodore and Fleet Captain are both obsolete ranks not used in the 2370s.
The Starfleet flag officer ranks are: (from lowest to highest)
Rear Admiral Lower Half
Rear Admiral
Vice Admiral
Admiral
Fleet Admiral

EDIT:
Memory Alpha - Starfleet Ranks
Startrek.com.sg - Rank Guide

Jonnoo

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Report this Apr. 28 2005, 7:08 pm

i beleive that there should be NCO ranks in star trek online, instead of having to be an officer it would be cool and there would be toms of ranks to be promoted to!!

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