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Your orders captain?

> id="QUOTE"> Its the same princaple as Aircraft on a Carrier if they try to take off with out the right speed or power they would just crash.

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Report this Apr. 14 2005, 11:24 pm

Your ship has suffered a major system wide power failure.
Your ship finally drifted to a halt into the Federation - Romulan Neutral Zone.

Thanks to quick thinking by your chief engineer, you have enough emergancy power to maintain Life support and thats about it.

Because your ship isn't generating too much power, you wont be detected by Romulan sensors or ships unless they were actually looking out their windows.

If you signal for assistance to star fleet you risk being detected by the Romulan ships which would get to you quicker than any friendly ship.

So Captain do you Order Tactical to send a message to Starfleet and risk alerting the Romulans and starting a war between the Federation and Romulus.

or do you decided to do nothing and risk a long wait.
or perhaps there maybe a even greater risk you can take I dunno but luckly I'm not the captain you are!

The crew turn to you looking for your order

So Captain your order?

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Report this Apr. 14 2005, 11:51 pm

I never got this part of star trek. You have shuttles! Those shuttles can use few systems just like your ship and just use basic thrusters to move out of the neutral zone, warp a bit of a ways away then signal starfleet. It's not like your ship is all you have.

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Report this Apr. 14 2005, 11:55 pm

Quote (namelessensign @ April 14 2005, 8:51 pm)
I never got this part of star trek. You have shuttles! Those shuttles can use few systems just like your ship and just use basic thrusters to move out of the neutral zone, warp a bit of a ways away then signal starfleet. It's not like your ship is all you have.

What you think powers the shuttle bay? you need power for the main ship to use to open and close the ship doesn't have that power.

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Report this Apr. 14 2005, 11:59 pm

LOL nicely done. :D

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 12:02 am

shuttle bay could be opened manually, way i see it even the power required to run life support would probably set off the romulans anyway. I'd just send out a general distress signal and hope that the rommies are feeling generous.

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 12:05 am

Dont count on it...

Romulans: OOO federation technology... :O

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 12:14 am

hehe well depends if your still at the 'old clunker' stage of your ship command or not. :p

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 10:52 am

Quote (namelessensign @ April 14 2005, 8:51 pm)
...You have shuttles! Those shuttles can use few systems just like your ship and just use basic thrusters to move out of the neutral zone, warp a bit of a ways away then signal starfleet. It's not like your ship is all you have.

I love the way you think.

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 12:26 pm

Quote (Archrival @ April 13 2005, 10:55 pm)
Quote (namelessensign @ April 14 2005, 8:51 pm)
I never got this part of star trek. You have shuttles! Those shuttles can use few systems just like your ship and just use basic thrusters to move out of the neutral zone, warp a bit of a ways away then signal starfleet. It's not like your ship is all you have.

What you think powers the shuttle bay? you need power for the main ship to use to open and close the ship doesn't have that power.

That's why you have Engineers....blow the shuttlebay doors if you do not have power to them then let the shuttlecraft get to Fed space and send the distress call.

Out of the box thinking; It can get you to Chief Engineer, Executive Officer and Captain, whichever you want to achieve.

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 12:46 pm

use thrusters to set course and blow the doors on the shuttleand cargo bays thus pushing the ship along and not giving off a large energy signature and send a subspace message encoded ofc in a narrow band beam thus so the romulans cant detect it :)

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Report this Apr. 15 2005, 1:04 pm

I would use everything i have left to get to a romulan ship to get my ship boarded, after I started the self-destruct sequance.

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Report this Apr. 17 2005, 9:09 am

I'm afraid you've all failed the commanders test.

You can not use the shuttles for 1. There is no power the consoles would show nothing.

2. You have flying with artificale gravity with no real way to deturmin if the ship is the right way up you cannot tell soon as you open the shuttle doors the shuttle wouldn't just fall to the roof. As there would be no power to compensate the shuttle for the difference.

3. You couldn't blast or open the outer dowers manually. Cause the Shuttle bay would decompressurize the room so you wouldn't get far.

Its the same princaple as Aircraft on a Carrier if they try to take off with out the right speed or power they would just crash.

The answer is You have to order your engineer to redivert the power from Life support to the engines to kick start the warp drive and warp to the Federation zone.

The trouble is if you do this even by shutting it off in places the people wouldn't last until you arrive.

You be ordering people to their deaths.

Thats what this was about. To see if you can make that decision or not.

(This was taken out of Star Trek Commanders examinations book so it is as you say canon.)

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Report this Apr. 17 2005, 9:35 am

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2. You have flying with artificale gravity with no real way to deturmin if the ship is the right way up you cannot tell soon as you open the shuttle doors the shuttle wouldn't just fall to the roof. As there would be no power to compensate the shuttle for the difference.


it's space, there is no right way up. I'm sure i'm misreading you here because the entire idea seems ludacrous, at worst if the shuttle isnt clamped down it'll just float off

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Its the same princaple as Aircraft on a Carrier if they try to take off with out the right speed or power they would just crash.


so you're saying shuttles use jet engines now? you see the beauty of impulse engines is the ability to take off on the spot, we've seen this numerous times, it's a canon fact so that idea is right out the window.

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The answer is You have to order your engineer to redivert the power from Life support to the engines to kick start the warp drive and warp to the Federation zone.


well that's ONE answer. If you enjoy going to funerals you do that, i'll stick with my way every time.

I prefer sircedrics situations better, he doesn't get them right out of a manual and doesnt berate everyone because they didn't copy the answer right from it.

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Report this Apr. 17 2005, 9:44 am

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Report this Apr. 18 2005, 10:37 am

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it's space, there is no right way up. I'm sure i'm misreading you here because the entire idea seems ludacrous, at worst if the shuttle isnt clamped down it'll just float off

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so you're saying shuttles use jet engines now? you see the beauty of impulse engines is the ability to take off on the spot, we've seen this numerous times, it's a canon fact so that idea is right out the window.

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The answer is You have to order your engineer to redivert the power from Life support to the engines to kick start the warp drive and warp to the Federation zone.

well that's ONE answer. If you enjoy going to funerals you do that, i'll stick with my way every time.

I prefer sircedrics situations better, he doesn't get them right out of a manual and doesnt berate everyone because they didn't copy the answer right from it.

This sort of thing no one ever likes. Alot of you want to lead be captain of your own ships. Too many of you take that role too lightly. Being the captain you have to make decisions that sometimes will make you the most hated person on ship. Its about numbers 1 life to save milions that sort of thing.  I arn't berating anyone. You don't have to copy the answer exactly.

Infact Cormoran, your behaving exactly like Dina Troi did when she took this sort of test.  It is just something as a commander or a Captain you have to learn and accept.
Are you going to worry about going to a lot of funerals or are you going to be concerned about getting your crew home. Who they depend on you. Would you say to them Sorry I don't want to goto anyones funeral so we all going to die.
1 person getting them self killed so the ship could get home.

Its the leason the Captain in U-571 tried to teach to his First officer.
1st op " I give my life for anyone one of them sir!"
Captain, " I know you would, I'm not questioning your bravery. Question is What about their lifes. Could you order so-so to do something that may result in their deaths?"

If you want to be a captain, if you have to consider if You pause at the time, you have no right! being a captain. If you don't reflect on it afterwards without pause without thought then you don't deserve to wear the Uniform of which you would be wearing.

My situations actualy teach, instead of playing in the world of fantasy.

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