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What happened to all the Conventions?

Borginator987

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Report this Mar. 22 2005, 5:55 pm

There arent near as many as there used to be. Whats the deal?

WAnglais1

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Report this Mar. 23 2005, 11:58 am

Well, lots of things really.  People lose interest, the fan base is aging, and money issues are just a few of the reasons.  Sometimes fans want to meet only the big Trek stars, and they don't come to every con everywhere.  Just some of the things I can think of.

Borginator987

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Report this Mar. 23 2005, 5:53 pm

Right when I start to get really really really into it, there are hardly any conventions! WHY GOD WHY!??

WrathOfJon

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Report this Mar. 31 2005, 12:55 am

Ebay
No young/new fans
The same guests at the cons over & over again
A crap show like Enterprise doesn't exactly get interest up in ST

mrblonde

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Report this Apr. 01 2005, 3:16 pm

Creation charges SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much money for theri cons, they have all the stars signed to contracts so they can't do cons for anyone else. The fans are sick of being treated like crap. You have to pay to get in, you have to pay to meet the stars, you have to pay to get ther autographs. It's way too much money.

linda70123

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Report this Apr. 02 2005, 1:03 am

Quote (Borginator987 @ Mar. 22 2005, 3:53 pm)
Right when I start to get really really really into it, there are hardly any conventions! WHY GOD WHY!??

Yeah --- that's my story too!!!   :angry:

Zorba55

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Report this Apr. 11 2005, 4:18 pm

That's why I like the convention in Pasadena put on by Creation.  They do have some stars that appear each year, but they also get different stars from other shows to appear.  The conventions do cost a lot of money and you can easily spend a small fortune on autographs.

mrblonde

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Report this Apr. 12 2005, 3:09 pm

Quote (Zorba55 @ April 10 2005, 2:18 pm)
That's why I like the convention in Pasadena put on by Creation. They do have some stars that appear each year, but they also get different stars from other shows to appear. The conventions do cost a lot of money and you can easily spend a small fortune on autographs.

That is the one that I am talking about. It is a lot of money. And on top of all the money the people get for appearing, they charge money for autographs, a lot of it too, while they don't spend any time with the fans. It kinda sucks.

CaptCStark

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Report this Apr. 21 2005, 12:37 am

The convention companies (Creation and Slanted Fedora) were trying to push quantity over quality.  A good convention had a couple of guests and lasted a day or two.  Now they try to push so many guests in and then they over charge for admission to the point of where these are no longer conventions to be enjoyed but cattle-call cons where everything is overpriced and over done.

A true convention dosen't need different levels in pricing plans and dozens of guests.  In fact most of the enjoyable cons for me have been fan run and has about 5-7 guests.  The only company that has continued to run a good convention is Starland that runs Starfest every April.

I attended my first Grand Slam this year, I thought it was a bloody joke because Starfest was much better.

Greed has killed the majority of the convention attendees appetite for an enjoyable weekend.

Jadzia22

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Report this Apr. 21 2005, 7:10 am

I agree Creation take the piss when it comes to paying, but i live in England and there are like virtually no convention's over hear so creation is the only one that i know off that i go to.

Commander_Ichovel

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Report this Apr. 21 2005, 12:16 pm

Quote (linda70123 @ April 01 2005, 10:03 pm)
Quote (Borginator987 @ Mar. 22 2005, 3:53 pm)
Right when I start to get really really really into it, there are hardly any conventions! WHY GOD WHY!??

Yeah --- that's my story too!!! :angry:

Mine too

Kzinti

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Report this Apr. 22 2005, 6:25 pm

Some folks tried to set up cons in my area (Pittsburgh, PA) with the assistance of the fans... but the local fan club wanted free admission for all their members in exchange for assistance, and so much other stuff that it made the convention unprofitable for the people who were trying to do it.

And the fan base here isn't strong enough for a fan organization to bring in their own guests.

I don't have the extra $ or time to go to Philly or DC or halfway across Ohio to go to a con, so it's likely I'll never get to go to one again.

dunseldotcom

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Report this Apr. 27 2005, 5:33 pm

I agree with a lot of you. Creation has cornered the convention market away from the fan orginized ones that put more into it - such as guest speaker "panels" of authors, scientists and the like, art exhibits, discussion groups, etc. At a Creation con you either sit and wait for someone to talk (from the middle back if you don't pay extra) or spend money in the dealer room. The last Creation con I went to had several guest stars in the dealer room to sign autographs - for $10-$20 each! When Grace Lee Whitney started to leave her booth, one of the orginizers stopped her saying demandingly, "Wait! You can't leave yet Grace. You have to sign some pictures." These pictures were to be added to the stock of autographed pictures that they sell to us at high prices.

I used to go to conventions in the '70s and '80s but I rarely go anymore because of the above. It's a same. :sick:

WAnglais1

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Report this Apr. 28 2005, 1:07 pm

Slanted Fedora had the right idea toward the end of their existance.  The cons went smaller, with 10 folks or so, and limited to 400 fans.  We got plenty of time with the guests.  I spent about 10 minutes with Penny Johnson Jerald and her husband talking about whatever.  It didn't matter, I was chatting with Mrs Sisko and Sherry Palmer!  But, my fear is Creation has pushed a lot of the smaller con companies out of business.  Sure, there are ones that are annual (the Oklahoma one comes to mind) that are great, but they don't do it all over the country 40 weeks a year or whatever.  Greed seems to always win.

GunshipVP

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Report this May. 15 2005, 4:14 pm

Well, I'm from Texas, and there used to be three to four a year here in Austin.... now nothing.  The last one was William Shatner, and Creation rented the huge Austin Convention Center for it, and attendance was in the drain.  Hell, I didn't even pay for front row seats, and yet had them......

I think the problem is that the small, fan run conventions can't get the stars..... the only one anymore in Texas is the annual one in San Antonio, and that one usually only draws one big name star.  I am saddended that I now have to travel to Las Vegas and Pasadena to see an excellent convention, but if I have to so be it.  Without conventions, and no TV show anymore, I'm likely to go through withdrawels!

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