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Mini_J

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Report this Mar. 05 2005, 11:21 am

warp drive
Episode: TOS 007 - The Naked Time


The main propulsion system for most starships that is capable of faster-than-light travel.
The core of the warp drive uses  to control the annihilation of matter and antimatter. This controlled explosion is what generates the tremendous power required to warp space and travel faster than light.

On Earth, warp drive was invented in 2063 by noted scientist Zefram Cochrane

Taken from the Star Trek Library.

Could antimatter really provide the tremendous power required to warp space and travel faster than light? :question:

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Report this Mar. 05 2005, 3:26 pm

It should . Sceintists said that half a kilo would power the whole USA for two full days . Thats at least 3 TW . I think ...

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Report this Mar. 05 2005, 8:00 pm

Quote (MiniJ @ Mar. 05 2005, 8:21 am)
warp drive
Episode: TOS 007 - The Naked Time


The main propulsion system for most starships that is capable of faster-than-light travel.
The core of the warp drive uses  to control the annihilation of matter and antimatter. This controlled explosion is what generates the tremendous power required to warp space and travel faster than light.

On Earth, warp drive was invented in 2063 by noted scientist Zefram Cochrane

Taken from the Star Trek Library.

Could antimatter really provide the tremendous power required to warp space and travel faster than light? :question:

Well no, faster than light travel requires the ability to actually warp the structure of time and space. While antimatter and matter reaction can provide massive power it not enought to accomplish this.

What can, well Highly concertated form of matter such as Blackholes and cosmic strings, or Negative energy.

Blackhole can warp space in a manner where it may provide short cuts thru normal space, such as Rossen Einstein bridge, a type of wormhole associate with singularity of a black hole. And Cosmic string can also warp space in strange manners.

Negative energy would allow you to travel FTL in two ways. First it would allow you to prevent Wormholes from collasping, and second it can be use to create a warp bubble.

In this case the warp bubble would shrink the space in front of a starship and expanded the space behind the ship, causing the region of space that the starship is occupying to move faster than light.

Creating negative energy would require you to either to mine it from the area surrounding the Horizon of a blackhole or by the use of Nanotechnology.

Nanotechnology would allow to create billion of micromachine using Casmir effect to create region of space that contains negative energy density.

It predicted that around 9 kilograms of negative energy or negative matter ( concertated form of negative energy) would allow you to create a warp bubble, but according to same prediction it would require the energy equal to total mass of jupiter to create this amount of negative energy..

So FTL travel requires more than just antimatter...

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Report this Mar. 06 2005, 5:05 am

Yes, you have to be negative too.

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Report this Mar. 06 2005, 5:04 pm

don't forget about the inverse harmonic flux

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Report this Mar. 06 2005, 8:36 pm

it is not posable to go faster then light 1st you need an unlimited sorce of energy and the resone you need umnlimited energy is becouse once you get close to light speed the gravity will cause your ship to get hever and then you need more energy  to go faster and so on and so on. and finding a unlimited sorce of energy is imposable becouse all partecals have a 1/2 life unless you find some yet undicoverd matter

if im wrong plz correct me im only in 9th grade :p

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 12:07 am

Quote (Alex_baily @ Mar. 06 2005, 5:36 pm)
it is not posable to go faster then light 1st you need an unlimited sorce of energy and the resone you need umnlimited energy is becouse once you get close to light speed the gravity will cause your ship to get hever and then you need more energy to go faster and so on and so on. and finding a unlimited sorce of energy is imposable becouse all partecals have a 1/2 life unless you find some yet undicoverd matter

if im wrong plz correct me im only in 9th grade :p

Well that if you attempt to accelerate to speed of light. FTL travel would invovle finding other ways around the limit set by Einstein relativity.

One way would be worm hole, tunnel thru higher dimension space connecting distant region of the universe. While macroscopic wormhole are rare, and almost alway located in the heart of blackhole, it may be possible to expand one of trillion microscopic wormholes that are constantly by born and destroy on the scale of a plank length.

We would you negative energy or casmir effect to force the mouth of these micro worm holes to expand and then shore it up with exotic matter, provide a short cut thru time and space.

Another way would be alcubierre warp drive which create a bubble of warp space that move a spacecraft ftl, while Einstein theory bind Matter and energy to speed of light, it doesnot prevent space itself from moving ftl.

This is what happen after the big bang, when inflation cause region of space to expand many times faster than the speed of light.

The Alcubierre space drive would also require negative energy while the inflation of the universe was fueled by negative pressure of some unknown inflationary field or maybe by the Higgs field which gives matter it mass.

final there hope of harnessing Tachyon, theorical particles that alway travel ftl to propel craft faster than light. No one has proven their existant, but many physicist believe Neutrinos may be a form of tachyonic matter. If so maybe one day we could power future starship with a neutrino rocket.

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 4:34 am

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We would you negative energy or casmir effect to force the mouth of these micro worm holes to expand and then shore it up with exotic matter, provide a short cut thru time and space.


I am taking one sentence out of context because I have nothing to add to the bulk of the theory , however, the image of the mouth of the wormhole in my mind reminded me of the iris of an eye (erm sorry to go SG1 on you) if these spacial structures expand and contract on a similar principle (there is another natrual structure which works along the same lines, are you squeamish?) then it ought to be possible to stimulate a reaction which would make the wormhole open smoothly and naturaly without the application of force, this would be a good thing because a forced reaction would require a great deal of additional energy output and could permanently collapse the wormhole. Stimulating the reactive centre of the wormhole could be all it would take to open it.

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 6:25 am

Quote (Zo_Ann @ Mar. 07 2005, 1:34 am)
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We would you negative energy or casmir effect to force the mouth of these micro worm holes to expand and then shore it up with exotic matter, provide a short cut thru time and space.


I am taking one sentence out of context because I have nothing to add to the bulk of the theory , however, the image of the mouth of the wormhole in my mind reminded me of the iris of an eye (erm sorry to go SG1 on you) if these spacial structures expand and contract on a similar principle (there is another natrual structure which works along the same lines, are you squeamish?) then it ought to be possible to stimulate a reaction which would make the wormhole open smoothly and naturaly without the application of force, this would be a good thing because a forced reaction would require a great deal of additional energy output and could permanently collapse the wormhole. Stimulating the reactive centre of the wormhole could be all it would take to open it.

That what negative energy does, wormhole basically are structure of space time, and they close due to gravitational attraction that one potion of space has for another.

The negative energy creates a negative gravitational force that cause the mouth to open ( there is no iris , just a gaping mouth..)

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 6:32 am

No, the gaping mouth effect is only created once the iris is fully expanded, the dilation of the wormhole "mouth" between the two extremes of fully open and fully closed is the "sphinter" effect.

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 6:40 am

Quote (Zo_Ann @ Mar. 07 2005, 3:32 am)
No, the gaping mouth effect is only created once the iris is fully expanded, the dilation of the wormhole "mouth" between the two extremes of fully open and fully closed is the "sphinter" effect.

fully close there is no wormhole as the lip of the wormhole is nothing more than space itself. One it close you have just another patch of spacetime...

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 10:39 am

I am not arguing with you here, all I am doing as adding some detail. The wormhole goes from closed to open through a simple process of dilation, there is no reason to fight to the death over a simple fact which can be used to augment your original statement.

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 12:53 pm

is there a way to artificialy create a wormhole? yes youll need a extremly strong gravey field but if you can make one could you (in theroy) make one?

also think of string theroy if you can warp to a nother demention you can theroyeticly warp to a nother part of your home demention and travle vast distences faster then light   :question: jest throughing out stuff  :)

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 1:40 pm

or you could keep your delivery ship stationary and use dark matter engines to move the universe around you.

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Report this Mar. 07 2005, 2:13 pm

You are absolutely insane
(but you make me :laugh: )

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