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jtk2jlp

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Report this Mar. 02 2005, 6:48 pm

1/4 million dollars

This guy also have a page in construction for the submissions.

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Report this Mar. 02 2005, 6:51 pm

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 1:09 am

Quote (jtk2jlp @ Mar. 02 2005, 3:48 pm)
1/4 million dollars

This guy also have a page in construction for the submissions.

Yeah like he would really pay me if I do... ;)

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 1:19 am

one look/little reading of web site tells me the guy is a nut case...
anyone who spends time trying to save anyone who allready believes in the power of Jesus (strengthing the allready believers) is either certifiable, ignorant, or misguided, all three of which = nut case
dont try to save the saved...its kinda...whats the word im looking for...ah yes...dumb

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 5:54 am

So far you haven't sold me on the concept even far enough for mo to follow the link.

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 7:14 pm

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 7:15 pm

Funny, none of these links takes you to the pages I am referring to.  O'well.  Surely you can find them.

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 7:19 pm

The first one is about, I think, dinosaurs in the 20th Century.

The second one is jumbled up.  Don't use it.

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 7:36 pm

Quote (jtk2jlp @ Mar. 03 2005, 4:19 pm)
The first one is about, I think, dinosaurs in the 20th Century.

The second one is jumbled up.  Don't use it.

I understand your plan, you are going to confuse us with stupid links and then wait till we die laughting....



;) very clever.....

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Report this Mar. 03 2005, 11:35 pm

WOW, that was an interesting website to troll through.  I think the phrase beyond a reasonable doubt is the phrase that will keep that $250,000 from ever being handed out.  The creator of that website is asking for something that at this time essentially cannot be done in order to use that as fuel for his arguments.  When arguments come in failing to convince beyone a reasonable doubt he will simply claim that as evidence of evolution being a matter of faith and not science.  Which, I must admit is not completely wrong.  Devotion to pure science can be seen as a religion and a philosophy of life.

I have a problem with this not because the man is a fundamentalist, but becuase the man blindly believes he is correct and does not seem open to the possibility he is mistaken.  Fundamentalism is a fine belief system.  But blind belief that cannot possibly be changed either for evolution or fundamentalism is a poor philosophy to live by.  One should at least excet the possibility that his/her beliefs might not be exaclty correct.  At the very least one must be tolerant of other views.

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Report this Mar. 04 2005, 1:33 am

Quote (Ellessar @ Mar. 03 2005, 8:35 pm)
WOW, that was an interesting website to troll through. I think the phrase beyond a reasonable doubt is the phrase that will keep that $250,000 from ever being handed out. The creator of that website is asking for something that at this time essentially cannot be done in order to use that as fuel for his arguments. When arguments come in failing to convince beyone a reasonable doubt he will simply claim that as evidence of evolution being a matter of faith and not science. Which, I must admit is not completely wrong. Devotion to pure science can be seen as a religion and a philosophy of life.

I have a problem with this not because the man is a fundamentalist, but becuase the man blindly believes he is correct and does not seem open to the possibility he is mistaken. Fundamentalism is a fine belief system. But blind belief that cannot possibly be changed either for evolution or fundamentalism is a poor philosophy to live by. One should at least excet the possibility that his/her beliefs might not be exaclty correct. At the very least one must be tolerant of other views.

Actually I would like to see him stand up to a similar challenge on defending the bible.

As it stand there are countless contradictions to be found in the bible. If we took his stand of proof then the bible is incorrect and cannot be used to back his theories.

see following for list of bible contradiction:

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/contradictions.htm

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Report this Mar. 04 2005, 3:52 am

Quote (Ellessar @ Mar. 03 2005, 8:35 pm)
WOW, that was an interesting website to troll through. I think the phrase beyond a reasonable doubt is the phrase that will keep that $250,000 from ever being handed out. The creator of that website is asking for something that at this time essentially cannot be done in order to use that as fuel for his arguments. When arguments come in failing to convince beyone a reasonable doubt he will simply claim that as evidence of evolution being a matter of faith and not science. Which, I must admit is not completely wrong. Devotion to pure science can be seen as a religion and a philosophy of life.

I have a problem with this not because the man is a fundamentalist, but becuase the man blindly believes he is correct and does not seem open to the possibility he is mistaken. Fundamentalism is a fine belief system. But blind belief that cannot possibly be changed either for evolution or fundamentalism is a poor philosophy to live by. One should at least excet the possibility that his/her beliefs might not be exaclty correct. At the very least one must be tolerant of other views.

I do have a problem with it, Darwins entire mssion when writing "The Origin of Species" was to prove that life came to be as we know it by a natural process and he wrote it specifically to debunk religous notions of species which at that time were going about proclaiming to all and sundry that species arrived on this planet fully formed 6000 years ago. *takes deep breath* Science is not a matter of faith, faith comes from a different set of jargon, and the science of life is not a religion. This man's a nutter.

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Report this Mar. 04 2005, 4:13 am

Ultimately it makes no more sense to call the life-sciences a religion than it does to call religion a life-science.

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Report this Mar. 04 2005, 9:59 am

Quote (Zo_Ann @ Mar. 04 2005, 1:13 am)
Ultimately it makes no more sense to call the life-sciences a religion than it does to call religion a life-science.

No, I don't advocate or even believe in a fundmental interpertation of the bible.  However, by calling this man a nutter and by having the blind view that all creationists are nuts is the same thing from the othert side of the table.  

I am probably one of the most agnostic people you will ever meet.  I don't practice any Christian beliefs nor do I accept anything in the bible as fact.  I belive the bible, like any holy book is meant to be taken as allegory.  However, there is nothing wrong with not believing in evolution.  It is not crazy to believe that there is some sort of god that created the universe.

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Report this Mar. 04 2005, 11:20 am

I absolutely disagree not believing evolution is madness itself. If you wish to refute evolution a science forum is not the place to do it, go and pray to the Pope or something but do so somewhere else. Science and religion do not mix.

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