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Are we ready for an alien attack now?

Metabogyan

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 6:22 am

What aliens would be more dangerous to attack the Earth, the Borg or the aliens from "Independence Day?" We could see that the Borg are vulnerable to normal bullets, but clearly a Cube in orbit would be invincible...
  Is an nuclear bomb more powerfull than a photon torpedo? (the explosion of the nuke is clearly biggger and has a wider radius)

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 8:17 am

Quote (Metabogyan @ Jan. 02 2005, 3:22 am)
What aliens would be more dangerous to attack the Earth, the Borg or the aliens from "Independence Day?" We could see that the Borg are vulnerable to normal bullets, but clearly a Cube in orbit would be invincible...
  Is an nuclear bomb more powerfull than a photon torpedo? (the explosion of the nuke is clearly biggger and has a wider radius)

First in space there is no thermal or blast effect, this is soley due to the interaction of energy and air.

On the surface of a planet a Photon Torpedo would be more powerful than any nuke, since it is a matter antimatter explosive.

A good Novel of alien invading Earth is the Novel "FootFall" by Larry Nivens, there the only Thing that save earth was the alien concept of Honor, warfare and cultural misunderstanding.

Another novel " A planet Once Known as earth", had the aliens detonating our own nukes via Neutron Beams. And the Battle being a total mismatch.

any Alien that capable of crossing the instellar Void would easily overpower earth, it would be as easy as deflecting several large meteors and having them land in the oceans, creating tidal waves.

It would as easy as we wiping out an ant colony...

YoungQ

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 12:17 pm

I dont think the movies hollywood put out about aliens prepare us for anything

ssmukhi

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 12:37 pm

No, not at all. A species that is capable of interstellar travel would definitely be more scientifically advanced than ours. Should they decide to invade, all they have to do is send a probe maybe a about 100 meters in diameter, send it hurtling to the Earth at a sub-light speed of maybe 10,000 km / sec and make sure it hits land. The probe doesn't even need to have a war head. That would create such an explosive impact that a dust cloud would cover the Earth completely, thus blocking out the sun. This would deprive all plants of much needed sunlight, and ultimately will wreak havoc on the food chain. Ultimately, everyone will either suffocate from pollution or starve to death.

Come to think of it, why didn't any of the Trek aliens think of doing something as simple as that?

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 12:42 pm

in Storm Front, the photons fired by NX-01 were little more than RPGs. granted those photons aren't as powerful as those in later trek series, but they are still matter/antimatter warheads.

in trek universe, the explosive power of a photon is very weak.

even the torps that the borg use are extremely weak. in First Contact when they were firing at Cochrane's facility, they were like hand gernades. but when the borg fired at ships in the previous battle, they were causeing huge flames to spew from the impacts with shields.

Aronomy88

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 1:17 pm

Here is the real deal here:

Star trek and Paramount are out to make money!! (gasp) So for anyone to try and make perfect sense of anything just doesn't work. Now they do go into great detail as to how these technologies work but in all reality they sometimes contradict themselves. lanceromega is completely correct it's just that the borg could easily have wiped out earth granted any time travel is ever possible....unlike warp i don't believe there are even theories on how to travel into the past.

lanceromega

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 1:34 pm

Quote (Aronomy88 @ Jan. 02 2005, 10:17 am)
Here is the real deal here:

Star trek and Paramount are out to make money!! (gasp) So for anyone to try and make perfect sense of anything just doesn't work. Now they do go into great detail as to how these technologies work but in all reality they sometimes contradict themselves. lanceromega is completely correct it's just that the borg could easily have wiped out earth granted any time travel is ever possible....unlike warp i don't believe there are even theories on how to travel into the past.

Actually there are theories on how to time travel, the same FTL travel would in effect be time machines.

Wormholes traveling at Relativitic Velocity, using an Alcubierres warp drive twice, Tachyon's, etc would all allow you to travel into the past..

But why bother, just striking the earth with one of those Dinosaur killing Asteriod would do the trick.

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 3:59 pm

i think that any aliens would be far more interested in capturing earth than blowing it up... so i don't think they'll use 2 much explosive powers just a couple million troops ,some well placed airstrikes , and a ####load  of other advanced technical warcraft.

Ezrian_Bashirax

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 4:01 pm

We might stand a chance of repelling a landing craft assault. But from orbit...

Any species technilogically advanced enough to travel the huge distance form their planet to ours would have no problem wiping us out from orbit in a couple of minutes.

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 4:57 pm

Quote (Captain_Virak @ Jan. 02 2005, 4:01 pm)
Any species technilogically advanced enough to travel the huge distance form their planet to ours would have no problem wiping us out from orbit in a couple of minutes.

that reasoning makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

Ezrian_Bashirax

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 4:59 pm

Im just saying. The nearest habited planet has got to be hundreds of thousands of light years away. If any species has the technology to travel that distance, it stands to reason that they would have the technology to destroy us from orbit before we even realized they were there.

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 5:03 pm

by what logic do you say that?

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 5:04 pm

interstellar travel and weapons technology are completely different

Ezrian_Bashirax

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 5:06 pm

yes but it stands to reason both technologies would develop in time. A species that could travel interstellar distances or faster than light wouldnt be using fusion weapons, projectiles, or spears.

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Jan. 02 2005, 5:13 pm

perhaps the fact that they can travel to distant stars means that they have NO weapons technology at all

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