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Whitestar7

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Report this Oct. 14 2004, 12:06 am

I'm an aspiring science fiction writer and I am considering using teleportation in my story. The thing is, I want to write "hard" science fiction, that is, creating fantastic technologies that are plausible and realistic. I'm just trying to decide if teleportation is one of those things. Speaking of which, I would like to discuss about how teleportation is depicted in Star Trek. From I understand, the transporter works by disassembling crew members at the atomic level and converting them into energy. Once the energy arrives at the appointed destination, the process is reversed.


While we're on the subject of matter and energy, I read an article on the net regarding the conversion of energy into matter. Einstein has stated in his equations that matter and energy are interconvertible. Anyway, an experiment conducted at Stanford University was accomplished at S.L.A.C. (short for Stanford Linear Accelerator Center).


Here are some links to SLAC's statements released to various publications concerning the experiment:

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/exp/e144/nytimes.html

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/exp/e144/science1202.html


We can already teleport photons, but what gets teleported is the photon's properties, not the actual photons themselves. Personally, I don't think that there will ever be a conventional use for converting energy into matter because of the amount of energy contained in one human being. Think about it: if one human can produce thousands of hiroshimas bombs, then you would need thousands of atom bombs worth of energy to create a turkey sandwich. That just doesn't seem practical to me. If that amount of energy were to be released when turning a man into energy, well let's just say there wouldn't be much left of anything for a few thousand miles!


Such conversions of particles to energy are called annihilations, that is, they are like explosions: the explosive material is completely destroyed and no memory of its original form remains. Furthermore, the second law of thermodynamics tells us that in any conversion of matter, some energy is inevitably lost. However, you could compensate by disintegrating some rocks and adding in that energy too.


In my view, when your body is converted into energy, you're destroyed, hence, you die. End of story. What comes out of the teleporter is an exact copy, with all your memories etc, and no knowledge that it isn't you, but it isn't. No one would ever notice the problem, so it only affects you when it happens. Unless, if you believe in souls, there are "conservation of souls" problems to deal with - does the same soul follow the body around? While in an energy state, there is no consciousness, no heart to beat, hence the person who first underwent this form of teleportation has cease to exist and replaced with a replica.


1) The question is, would the person survive the procedure, or would the individual ceased to exist and be replaced with a replica, who was literally born into existence once the energy was reconverted back into matter with the information? (Note: I know this question sounds a bit philosophical but I'd be very interested in everyones opinion anyway.)


Renowned science fiction writer Larry Niven expressed his views on the transporter:


"I don't believe in bending space to order, and I wouldn't ride in a machine that annihilates me here, then beams away data that allows me to be exactly recreated somewhere else."


Mr. Niven has wrote his theory on teleportation in one of his stories:


"But I needed a theory that would allow instantaneous transportation and would still leave a passenger intact. What I came up with was a kind of super-neutrino. The displacement booth converts its cargo into an elementary particle of no rest mass, a relativistic mass equal to the weight of the cargo (for conservation of matter), an internal structure complex enough to carry the quantum states of every elementary particle in the cargo, and a neutrino's ability to pene_trate almost any barrier. I called it a transition particle."


2) Is this a more realistic version of teleportation?


In 1998, the UPN network aired a tv movie entitled, "Warlord: Battle For The Galaxy", starring Rod Taylor (H.G. Wells's Time Machine from 1960). Anyway, Taylor played a soon-to-be-retired General in charge of a starship that was equipped with a teleportation device, that worked by bending and folding space around the people traveling in it. It was mentioned that an older and primitive teleporter worked by scrambling peoples molecules, but there were too many accidents.


This new form of teleportation was proven to be far more reliable and safer. There is a scene where his crew teleported from their bridge and the space around the crew began to get distorted. Anyone within the distortion field is safe because they are within an invisible force field. The distortion takes place outside of the force field. However, any attempt to step outside of the force field as the teleportation process in operation, the results would be most unpleasant. One minute they were on the bridge and the next, they were on the surface of a planet on a specific floor in a building.


3) How plausible is the Warlord teleporter?


4) Is it theoretically possible in theory to teleport a crew from the bridge of a ship to the inside of a building on a specific floor using the Warlord Teleporter?


5) Could it be done by accessing extra dimensions, or would the energy requirements be too great, thus destroying both the planet and starship?


6) Does anyone have other theories on how teleportation could work for my story?


Whitestar7

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Report this Oct. 14 2004, 1:36 am

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Oct. 13 2004, 9:06 pm)
I'm an aspiring science fiction writer and I am considering using teleportation in my story. The thing is, I want to write "hard" science fiction, that is, creating fantastic technologies that are plausible and realistic. I'm just trying to decide if teleportation is one of those things. Speaking of which, I would like to discuss about how teleportation is depicted in Star Trek. From I understand, the transporter works by disassembling crew members at the atomic level and converting them into energy. Once the energy arrives at the appointed destination, the process is reversed.


While we're on the subject of matter and energy, I read an article on the net regarding the conversion of energy into matter. Einstein has stated in his equations that matter and energy are interconvertible. Anyway, an experiment conducted at Stanford University was accomplished at S.L.A.C. (short for Stanford Linear Accelerator Center).


Here are some links to SLAC's statements released to various publications concerning the experiment:

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/exp/e144/nytimes.html

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/exp/e144/science1202.html


We can already teleport photons, but what gets teleported is the photon's properties, not the actual photons themselves. Personally, I don't think that there will ever be a conventional use for converting energy into matter because of the amount of energy contained in one human being. Think about it: if one human can produce thousands of hiroshimas bombs, then you would need thousands of atom bombs worth of energy to create a turkey sandwich. That just doesn't seem practical to me. If that amount of energy were to be released when turning a man into energy, well let's just say there wouldn't be much left of anything for a few thousand miles!


Such conversions of particles to energy are called annihilations, that is, they are like explosions: the explosive material is completely destroyed and no memory of its original form remains. Furthermore, the second law of thermodynamics tells us that in any conversion of matter, some energy is inevitably lost. However, you could compensate by disintegrating some rocks and adding in that energy too.


In my view, when your body is converted into energy, you're destroyed, hence, you die. End of story. What comes out of the teleporter is an exact copy, with all your memories etc, and no knowledge that it isn't you, but it isn't. No one would ever notice the problem, so it only affects you when it happens. Unless, if you believe in souls, there are "conservation of souls" problems to deal with - does the same soul follow the body around? While in an energy state, there is no consciousness, no heart to beat, hence the person who first underwent this form of teleportation has cease to exist and replaced with a replica.


1) The question is, would the person survive the procedure, or would the individual ceased to exist and be replaced with a replica, who was literally born into existence once the energy was reconverted back into matter with the information? (Note: I know this question sounds a bit philosophical but I'd be very interested in everyones opinion anyway.)


Renowned science fiction writer Larry Niven expressed his views on the transporter:


"I don't believe in bending space to order, and I wouldn't ride in a machine that annihilates me here, then beams away data that allows me to be exactly recreated somewhere else."


Mr. Niven has wrote his theory on teleportation in one of his stories:


"But I needed a theory that would allow instantaneous transportation and would still leave a passenger intact. What I came up with was a kind of super-neutrino. The displacement booth converts its cargo into an elementary particle of no rest mass, a relativistic mass equal to the weight of the cargo (for conservation of matter), an internal structure complex enough to carry the quantum states of every elementary particle in the cargo, and a neutrino's ability to pene_trate almost any barrier. I called it a transition particle."


2) Is this a more realistic version of teleportation?


In 1998, the UPN network aired a tv movie entitled, "Warlord: Battle For The Galaxy", starring Rod Taylor (H.G. Wells's Time Machine from 1960). Anyway, Taylor played a soon-to-be-retired General in charge of a starship that was equipped with a teleportation device, that worked by bending and folding space around the people traveling in it. It was mentioned that an older and primitive teleporter worked by scrambling peoples molecules, but there were too many accidents.


This new form of teleportation was proven to be far more reliable and safer. There is a scene where his crew teleported from their bridge and the space around the crew began to get distorted. Anyone within the distortion field is safe because they are within an invisible force field. The distortion takes place outside of the force field. However, any attempt to step outside of the force field as the teleportation process in operation, the results would be most unpleasant. One minute they were on the bridge and the next, they were on the surface of a planet on a specific floor in a building.


3) How plausible is the Warlord teleporter?


4) Is it theoretically possible in theory to teleport a crew from the bridge of a ship to the inside of a building on a specific floor using the Warlord Teleporter?


5) Could it be done by accessing extra dimensions, or would the energy requirements be too great, thus destroying both the planet and starship?


6) Does anyone have other theories on how teleportation could work for my story?


Whitestar7

The SLAC experiments are old hat, any physicist could have told you that it creation of matter from the collision of photons is possible, but coverting matter directly into energy requires it to be brought into contact with antimatter.

The reason for this is the conservation laws of charge and Baryon number. You just cannot convert protons and electrons into energy without also destroying a like amount of antimatter. So antiproton must meet proton ( or quarks /anti quarks) and positron must combine with electrons to in order to obey these conservation laws.

The process would kill you, and the idea of recreating some one from energy by duplicating their pattern is a little far fretch. At best this is cloning, the orignal die when you turn him into a beam of gamma rays.

as you said teleportation of photons that we hear about is just transfering of a single property of the particle, that of spin. But this process can also be done with atoms, and particles like electrons and proton, but it not true teleportation. It also require that the particles become quantumly entangled, not a process that is easily perform on a living person.

The Warlord teleporter sound like a worm hole, Now creating a worm hole would allow a person to step thru it to another location would be a type of teleportation.

But the most realistic form of teleportation would be a process that duplicate quantum tunneling.

In Quantum tunneling a particle can bypass a barrier and appear on the other side of it without traveling thru it. The process is responible for radioactive decay of elements where an alpha will tunnel out of the nucleus of Uranium atom and then under go beta decay.

Electronic use Quantum tunneling of electron in certain transitor ( such as a Tunneling diode).

Now Quantum tunneling is due to the fact that particles have a wave function. This Wave function is the possibility of a particle being at speciific location. If you could control this possibility wave you can transport a particle to any location that it could have travel to or will travel to.

Do this with a person, and you could teleport him without turning him to energy or breaking him down into his basic molecules and beaming him.

All you would need is to know his wave function ( yes people have a wave function, and even the universe can be express as one) and alter it in a manner ( how I have no idea) that alter his possibility of his location to place him where you wish him to be.

He would suddenly be at  that location, in a instant..

check out following link on quantum tunneling :


http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/quantum_tunneling.html
http://phys.educ.ksu.edu/vqm/html/qtunneling.html
http://rugth30.phys.rug.nl/quantummechanics/tunnel.htm

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Report this Oct. 14 2004, 2:18 am

lanceromega:

oh man, back to the Quantum Mechanics days.. damn you schrodinger equation.

good work explaining things man, couldnt have done it better

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Report this Oct. 14 2004, 4:56 am

Quote (yourSymphonyInC @ Oct. 13 2004, 11:18 pm)
lanceromega:

oh man, back to the Quantum Mechanics days.. damn you schrodinger equation.

good work explaining things man, couldnt have done it better

thanks.

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Report this Oct. 15 2004, 4:10 am

so why exactly is it impossible to just create energy or matter out of nothing? maybe i'm just tired, or my brain is shutting down so i don't break down over my test tomorrow, but all these laws of physics seem like a load of krap.

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Report this Oct. 15 2004, 5:19 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Oct. 15 2004, 1:10 am)
so why exactly is it impossible to just create energy or matter out of nothing? maybe i'm just tired, or my brain is shutting down so i don't break down over my test tomorrow, but all these laws of physics seem like a load of krap.

because of the conservation of energy, which state energy or matter cannot be created or destroyed..

This law arises from the fact that universes is symmetrical in relation to time. The physical laws donot alter ( you can conduct an experiment today and it will give you the same results as one conducted yesterday or one done tomorrow) over time...

Symmetries seem to be powerful relationships that give rise to conservation laws. Symmetry of space, give us the conservation of momentum, and to maintain this symmetry the force of gravity. As a note we obey at least 16 different symmetries to explain the laws of physics set by the Standar
d model (SU8X8). Obeying these Symmetries mark the standard of whether a modern theory is correct or valid ( This is why superstring is such a hot issue, since it would)

The creation of matter or energy out of nothing would violate these symmetries ( Space,time, charge,etc ) and violate their associated conservation laws, momentum,baryon number, energy, etc....

This load of krap is why we can exist and the universe is not a place where matter arises out of nothing, the charge of electron does not vary minute to minute, or you and I donot just turn into a beam of photons for no apparent reason..

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Report this Oct. 15 2004, 11:52 am

i will like to state that what is observed and theorized is not necessarily what actually is. and things we observe in our conrer of the universe don't necessarily hold elsewhere. in addition, people are stupid and i'm also lazy

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Report this Oct. 15 2004, 1:58 pm

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Oct. 15 2004, 8:52 am)
i will like to state that what is observed and theorized is not necessarily what actually is. and things we observe in our conrer of the universe don't necessarily hold elsewhere. in addition, people are stupid and i'm also lazy

now you are becoming difficult, what is observed has become the bases of the very science that has been so sucessful. Conservations laws herald the discoveries of Thermodynamics, which brought on the industial revolutions.

Then Quantum mechanics, which brought us the modern electronics that allow us to communicate via the internet.

And is the foundations of String theory.

Some people are lazy, other experiment ( so that they can test the theories that have arose over observation) and this demand effort.

Some are stupid that lead to war and conflict, while other are geniuses like Newton, Edison, Einstein, Planck,etc...

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Report this Oct. 18 2004, 1:11 pm

Hi Lanceromega.


Thanks for your reply. Your comment,


"The SLAC experiments are old hat, any physicist could have told you that it creation of matter from the collision of photons is possible, but coverting matter directly into energy requires it to be brought into contact with antimatter."


1) Could there be a subsitute for antimatter when converting matter into energy?


Your second comment,


"The process would kill you, and the idea of recreating some one from energy by duplicating their pattern is a little far fretch. At best this is cloning, the orignal die when you turn him into a beam of gamma rays."


I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I prefer to take my car instead! :)


Your third comment,


"The Warlord teleporter sound like a worm hole, Now creating a worm hole would allow a person to step thru it to another location would be a type of teleportation."


2) Is it theorically possible to use the Warlord teleporter by accessing extra dimensions?


Your fourth comment,


"But the most realistic form of teleportation would be a process that duplicate quantum tunneling. In Quantum tunneling a particle can bypass a barrier and appear on the other side of it without traveling thru it. The process is responible for radioactive decay of elements where an alpha will tunnel out of the nucleus of Uranium atom and then under go beta decay. Now Quantum tunneling is due to the fact that particles have a wave function. This Wave function is the possibility of a particle being at speciific location. If you could control this possibility wave you can transport a particle to any location that it could have travel to or will travel to. Do this with a person, and you could teleport him without turning him to energy or breaking him down into his basic molecules and beaming him. All you would need is to know his wave function ( yes people have a wave function, and even the universe can be express as one) and alter it in a manner ( how I have no idea) that alter his possibility of his location to place him where you wish him to be. He would suddenly be at that location, in a instant."


Yes, I read about quantum tunneling in the excellent book, "Hyperspace" by Michio Kaku. In one section, he discusses about quantum tunneling being an everyday occurence. In addition, only some particles can tunnel, while others can't. However, there is still a probability that a human composed of so many particles can theorically tunnel through any barrier and arrive instantly to another location. But the chances of every particle in the human body tunneling at the exact same time is very, very remote. It would take longer than the age of the universe!


3) Do you think with extremely advance technology this will be overcome? If not, why?


Whitestar7


By the way, thanks for the sites! :)

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Report this Oct. 19 2004, 1:32 am

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Oct. 18 2004, 10:11 am)
Hi Lanceromega.


Thanks for your reply. Your comment,


"The SLAC experiments are old hat, any physicist could have told you that it creation of matter from the collision of photons is possible, but coverting matter directly into energy requires it to be brought into contact with antimatter."


1) Could there be a subsitute for antimatter when converting matter into energy?


Your second comment,


"The process would kill you, and the idea of recreating some one from energy by duplicating their pattern is a little far fretch. At best this is cloning, the orignal die when you turn him into a beam of gamma rays."


I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I prefer to take my car instead! :)


Your third comment,


"The Warlord teleporter sound like a worm hole, Now creating a worm hole would allow a person to step thru it to another location would be a type of teleportation."


2) Is it theorically possible to use the Warlord teleporter by accessing extra dimensions?


Your fourth comment,


"But the most realistic form of teleportation would be a process that duplicate quantum tunneling. In Quantum tunneling a particle can bypass a barrier and appear on the other side of it without traveling thru it. The process is responible for radioactive decay of elements where an alpha will tunnel out of the nucleus of Uranium atom and then under go beta decay. Now Quantum tunneling is due to the fact that particles have a wave function. This Wave function is the possibility of a particle being at speciific location. If you could control this possibility wave you can transport a particle to any location that it could have travel to or will travel to. Do this with a person, and you could teleport him without turning him to energy or breaking him down into his basic molecules and beaming him. All you would need is to know his wave function ( yes people have a wave function, and even the universe can be express as one) and alter it in a manner ( how I have no idea) that alter his possibility of his location to place him where you wish him to be. He would suddenly be at that location, in a instant."


Yes, I read about quantum tunneling in the excellent book, "Hyperspace" by Michio Kaku. In one section, he discusses about quantum tunneling being an everyday occurence. In addition, only some particles can tunnel, while others can't. However, there is still a probability that a human composed of so many particles can theorically tunnel through any barrier and arrive instantly to another location. But the chances of every particle in the human body tunneling at the exact same time is very, very remote. It would take longer than the age of the universe!


3) Do you think with extremely advance technology this will be overcome? If not, why?


Whitestar7


By the way, thanks for the sites! :)

1. No, while it possible to transform part of the mass of an subatomic particle to energy without antimatter, only antimatter can create 100% conversion of mass to energy.

The reason is due to the conservation laws of Charge,spin, Momentum, lepton number and Baryon number. These laws are what prevent matter from simply transformering into photons. Antimatter particles would contain a negative value for these properties and when combine with normal matter would insure that properties are conserved when the particle is annhliated, since you are removing an equal amount of negative charge, spin, etc....

2. worm holes  connect points in the same universe by taking a path thru another dimension (hyperspace)... So yes if warlord teleporter works in the same manner he could actually be accessing a path thru a higher dimension.

3. Why not, all that is require is finding a way to manipulate the wave function of the particles involved. We do this all the time to beams of particles like photon and electrons.

Look at double slit experiment, by closing and opening a single slit we can determine whether particle like a photon, proton,neutron or electron behave like wave or steams of particles. Not only can we effect the path the particle take but actually where it impact on the target, without applying a physical force to the particle itself.

Basicly we are shaping the possiblitily wave in a manner that defies common logic and how this is done is one of the mystery of modern physic.

What causes the Quantum wave form to collaspe, determining when or where a particle appears. We know when we attempt to measure a particle it happen, but the mechanism of how it happen is unknown. If we knew how the Wave function is force to collaspe then we may be able to effect the outcome.

We could at will make a collection of particles like a human behave like a wave and then change the location by forcing the wave function to collaspe with the possibility that he some where else.  

The quantum wave function and it collaspe is one of the ongoing mystery of Quantum mechanics, and maybe we will have a better understanding in the future.

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Report this Oct. 19 2004, 7:17 pm

Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 18 2004, 10:32 pm)

Hello again. :)


Your comment,


"No, while it possible to transform part of the mass of an subatomic particle to energy without antimatter, only antimatter can create 100% conversion of mass to energy."


Imagine for the sake of argument that there was a substitute for antimatter.


1) If a teleportee were to be converted into energy with an alternative to antimatter, would it destroy the individual and create a clone once the procedure has been reversed?


Your second comment,


"worm holes  connect points in the same universe by taking a path thru another dimension (hyperspace)... So yes if warlord teleporter works in the same manner he could actually be accessing a path thru a higher dimension."


2) If it were not for the higher dimension, would the Warlord teleporter have destroyed both the planet and ship?


Your third comment in regards to quantum tunneling,


"Why not, all that is require is finding a way to manipulate the wave function of the particles involved. We do this all the time to beams of particles like photon and electrons."


3) Do you think quantum tunneling is a better option for teleportation as opposed to wormholes?


Whitestar7

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Report this Oct. 19 2004, 8:26 pm

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Oct. 19 2004, 4:17 pm)

Quote:


Hello again. :)


Your comment,


"No, while it possible to transform part of the mass of an subatomic particle to energy without antimatter, only antimatter can create 100% conversion of mass to energy."


Imagine for the sake of argument that there was a substitute for antimatter.


1) If a teleportee were to be converted into energy with an alternative to antimatter, would it destroy the individual and create a clone once the procedure has been reversed?


Your second comment,


"worm holes connect points in the same universe by taking a path thru another dimension (hyperspace)... So yes if warlord teleporter works in the same manner he could actually be accessing a path thru a higher dimension."


2) If it were not for the higher dimension, would the Warlord teleporter have destroyed both the planet and ship?


Your third comment in regards to quantum tunneling,


"Why not, all that is require is finding a way to manipulate the wave function of the particles involved. We do this all the time to beams of particles like photon and electrons."


3) Do you think quantum tunneling is a better option for teleportation as opposed to wormholes?


Whitestar7

1. any substitute for antimatter would need to be able to negate the values of particle spin, charge , baryon or lepton number, etc... The substance would be very deadly turning any particle to energy on contact.

This would be like a magnetic monopole ( if they exist) and it abilities to produce Proton decay. Because the interior of the Monopole is frozen fragment of space time before the universe inflation, it would have region of hi energy where all the forces of nature are a single force, and the symmetry of a higher order than what we see.

Any proton running into a monopole would be converted to a positron ( anti electron), neutrino and energy...

As it stand any procedure that convert matter to energy would be deadly and reconstruct person from this energy is a clone...Not the original.

2. A worm hole that doesnot access A higher dimension would be like a Krasnikov Tube, which is a corridor of wrap time space that creates shorter path thru unwarp time space.

The result of trying to tunnel to another dimension that doesnot exist is unknown. It can anything from nothing to destroying the universe by creating another Big bang..

see follow in Krasnikov tubes:
http://mist.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw86.html

3. Both are equally valid solution, one Quantum and the other Relativitic. Both are alot better than breaking some one down to a stream of particles and beaming him to a location to be reassemble...

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Report this Oct. 21 2004, 3:26 pm

Your comment,


"As it stand any procedure that convert matter to energy would be deadly and reconstruct person from this energy is a clone...Not the original."


I agree. But I have another question on this topic and I should point out that I'm no physicist. Now this is me thinking out loud and if I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to let me know. Consider this: If a crew member is converted into energy and the energetic EMT (electromagnetic) brainwave signature is exactly the same, I would imagine that it would be the original person, not a clone.


1) What do you think?


Imagine for a moment that there was some way around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.


2) If a person were to be disassemble at the atomic level and the process is reversed, would it be the original person or a clone? (Note, I'm simply referring to the disassembly of a person's atoms, not the conversion of matter into energy.)


Whitestar7

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Report this Oct. 21 2004, 5:45 pm

i haven't read anything on this thread but i just came in here too say that i heard a while ago that some Laboratorium was able too teleport a Laser beam. Quite amazing actually.

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Report this Oct. 21 2004, 6:02 pm

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Oct. 21 2004, 12:26 pm)
Your comment,


"As it stand any procedure that convert matter to energy would be deadly and reconstruct person from this energy is a clone...Not the original."


I agree. But I have another question on this topic and I should point out that I'm no physicist. Now this is me thinking out loud and if I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to let me know. Consider this: If a crew member is converted into energy and the energetic EMT (electromagnetic) brainwave signature is exactly the same, I would imagine that it would be the original person, not a clone.


1) What do you think?


Imagine for a moment that there was some way around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.


2) If a person were to be disassemble at the atomic level and the process is reversed, would it be the original person or a clone? (Note, I'm simply referring to the disassembly of a person's atoms, not the conversion of matter into energy.)


Whitestar7

1> That a metaphysical question? if it transfer the Brain waves to another person would that new person be the original even if his DNA does not match? My personal opinion, it just a duplicate program to believe he the original..

2 > The Uncertainty Principle is due to the basic property of the universe, so it doubtful that there is a way around it.

3> if you take something apart and put it back together I would assume that it is the original...

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