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Trek gaming in trouble ...

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 5:39 am

I suppose us Trek gaming guru's should have saw this coming ... But we didn't.

I am an admiral for what remains one of the largest Trek fleets around -- the 11thFleet-Spartan Vanguard.

http://www.svcommand.com

I was founder of the Brotherhood of Trans-Atlantic Knights -- a two-year-old worldwide gaming guild with 27 members that merged with the Vanguard six weeks ago.

I am also the Unity Team Lead Admin/Director -- an SFC3 mod with over 15,000 downloads on STDG, GameSpot, sfc3files and CNet. The mod, sponsored by the Star Trek Gamers Directory, began production last November and has nearly 400 ships and is a revamp of the popular TNZ by CaptainKoraH.

http://www.trek-gamers/unity

But today's MMORPG news was the stake in the heart of Trek fleets who have suffered through the Viacom/ACTI lawsuit in the last year ...

Not only can't we NOT buy the last series of Activision games anymore expect USED, on EBay or if you are lucky, somewhere in the bottom bin of the discount rack at Target ... But, today's news from Paramount and it's Viacom parent company was the Coup de.

Victor1st, the director of the Star Trek Gamers Directory puts it this way.

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Well, that tears it, the last one to leave Star Trek gaming please turn off the lights.


http://www.perpetualent.com/pages/news.html

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/gaming/news/article/6630.html

Will the last fleet please turn out the lights.



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WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 5:46 am

It is an issue...but more than one company makes games, and the problem Activsion has is they cant agree with anyone, conflict of interests...and it is very expensive to by gameing rights....

Not to much we can do about it....Just keep the people interested through MODs....

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 5:48 am

Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 07 2004, 10:46 am)
It is an issue...but more than one company makes games, and the problem Activsion has is they cant agree with anyone, conflict of interests...and it is very expensive to by gameing rights....

Not to much we can do about it....Just keep the people interested through MODs....

We won't make it three years ... As admin for one of the most popular SFC3 mods, I can tell you it won't happen.

Too many other games.

The 11th has already turned to World of Warcraft, the upcoming Rome Total War and Freelancer mods.

Anyone need a cheap set of admirals bars? For sale: Great discount.



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Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 5:57 am

Well if you just give up yes we are doomed....

And besides how is Trek Gameing doomed for good?? So people play the other games in the mean time...When the Trek MMORPG comes out I know alot of trekkies will buy it, and play it...It might sell slow to start, but it will probably do better than any other Trek game....

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:08 am

Uni, I have hung on through it all. The Taldren debacle with the 'testers' patches, the ACTI lawsuit, the lack of support from ACTI. Unity and 6 other SFC3 mods are there. We have shipyards at STGD with 700+ships in them.

THAT is not the issue.

THE GAME ISN'T BEING SOLD ANYMORE. THERE IS NO NEW BLOOD.

:blush:

The game engine is old and buggy.

Give up? You expect modders to hang out for three more years without source code? Do you expect entire fleet structures to be alive in three years? Even the largest Trek fleets are in trouble -- all of them.

**snickers**



WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:12 am

yes...yes I do.....*Hands out swords* people will do what you tell them to...

And the game upon release will be popular in time...you'll see....If you cant wait, make your own game...

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:14 am

Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 07 2004, 11:12 am)
yes...yes I do.....*Hands out swords* people will do what you tell them to...

And the game upon release will be popular in time...you'll see....If you cant wait, make your own game...

Uni, we can't make a Trek game without getting sued by Paramount.

I am not doubting it's the future popularity of the game announced officially today. What I am saying is that three years is too long.



WT

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:29 am

I meant Make your own, dont give it out to anyone or sell for commercial use.....and give it to Paramount...They sue you, take your game and mass produce and sell it...

Spock says...
"The needs of the Many out weigh the needs of the Few!"

The4thAmigo

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:35 am

You two speak as though this is the only Trek game on the horizon. Odds are, someone will lease the license to make a single-player game well before the release of the MMORPG. So cheer up--it's not the end of the world we're talking about.

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:52 am

Quote (The4thAmigo @ Sep. 07 2004, 11:35 am)
You two speak as though this is the only Trek game on the horizon. Odds are, someone will lease the license to make a single-player game well before the release of the MMORPG. So cheer up--it's not the end of the world we're talking about.

The only new game on the horizon is Raven Night and Nightsoft's Bridge Commander II, a complete revamp.



WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 6:53 am

Armada 3 and SFC...are possibilities, but no words as of this date....

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 7:03 am

I'm not a big fan off mmorpg, so I hope they release a good single player game in the mean time.

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 7:07 am

Quote (WaterTiger @ Sep. 07 2004, 1:52 pm)
Quote (The4thAmigo @ Sep. 07 2004, 11:35 am)
You two speak as though this is the only Trek game on the horizon. Odds are, someone will lease the license to make a single-player game well before the release of the MMORPG. So cheer up--it's not the end of the world we're talking about.

The only new game on the horizon is Raven Night and Nightsoft's Bridge Commander II, a complete revamp.



WaterTiger

Can I have a link to there website thanks.

WaterTiger

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 7:37 am

Raven runs a practical BC corporation.

http://www.3dactionplanet.com/bridgecommander/

Unity has an SFC3 to BC ship exchange program to mod eachothers ships and trade them game to game.

His forums detail BC II plans and he owns Nightsoft.

http://www.nightsoft.net

If you are looking for the SFC3 Modding Community, visit the STGD site.

http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/forum/

Island Wars, another SFC3 mod is here:

[url]http://islandwars.net/IWForums/[/url

EAW/OP'ers can be found at http://www.dynaverse.net

The Star Trek Gamers Universe is here:

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/stgu/

STGD is here:

[http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/

Unity, sponsored by STGD, is here:

http://www.trek-gamers/unity

ThePelican and DomWars are also at STGD with a community of SFC3 modders.

http://www.domwars.com

Need more?



WT

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Report this Sep. 07 2004, 8:00 am

This is the site for SFC3 Mods...

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/

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