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IdoNotknow

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 9:10 am

if we have lasers that can cut metals, why not just make phasers or something

Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 5:21 pm

I have never even bothered to look into the technology or science behind our lazers yet, but i will get around to it!

But from what I know, A lazer uses alot of energy in a focused beam, but it loses that energy at a fast rate...I think an effective range is only a metre tops....not to sure though.

A Phaser from Star Trek uses an energy that in Stun Attacks the nervous system of the life form it is shot at, Depending on the intencity (aka setting) you can knock out a person or paralize them from Minutes-Hours, And firing a a kill shot is basically like sticking a human into a Microwave about 1000x more powerful...In otherwords you sorta implode!

We dont have the level of technology to modify nervous systems like that...although we do have a Lazer Acupuncture (?) that can dissabe your nervous system to a limit so you have next to no feeling for 24 hours...And we can also make a "Hand Microwave Phaser"....But thats pretty lethal and I am not going to tell you how!!

2 Things prevent us from makeing a phaser....

1. The Energy needed to sustain a beam over greater distances...

2. And it's size would be a bit bigger than what you could fit into you hand!

lanceromega

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 8:21 pm

Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Aug. 30 2004, 2:21 pm)
I have never even bothered to look into the technology or science behind our lazers yet, but i will get around to it!

But from what I know, A lazer uses alot of energy in a focused beam, but it loses that energy at a fast rate...I think an effective range is only a metre tops....not to sure though.

A Phaser from Star Trek uses an energy that in Stun Attacks the nervous system of the life form it is shot at, Depending on the intencity (aka setting) you can knock out a person or paralize them from Minutes-Hours, And firing a a kill shot is basically like sticking a human into a Microwave about 1000x more powerful...In otherwords you sorta implode!

We dont have the level of technology to modify nervous systems like that...although we do have a Lazer Acupuncture (?) that can dissabe your nervous system to a limit so you have next to no feeling for 24 hours...And we can also make a "Hand Microwave Phaser"....But thats pretty lethal and I am not going to tell you how!!

2 Things prevent us from makeing a phaser....

1. The Energy needed to sustain a beam over greater distances...

2. And it's size would be a bit bigger than what you could fit into you hand!

Borg you are soooo wrong.

Laser donot lose energy, what occurs is that the beam spreads, so it loses intensity. Laser stay focus longer than beams of particles so laser would be longer range weapons than convential Particle beams.

Laser weapons that were perfected for star war ( Remember the fame anti missile defense of the late president Reagan) would have ranges of greater than 100 KM and would actually target missiles from Orbit while they were launching.

Particle beams on the other hands loses intensity faster, but individual particles like electrons or Protons carry more energy, so it easy to generate more powerful beams using particle beam weapons than lasers. so the idea was to use particle beams in space against missile while they reach max height of their travel.

Particle beams would perform poorily in an atomsphere as they trend to react with the atoms in the air. Laser can use frequencies that allow them to travel thru the atomsphere with ease.

Phasers are first not real and are class as particle beams weapons, the Phasers particle called a Nadion, by the tech manuals shunt normal matter to subspace.

Problem with most Trekkies are they are ignorance of the true potential of lasers. New techinques in generating short pulse hi power laser burst can actually create a laser that can cause heavy elements to under go fission, or Generate magnetic fields in megagauss range.

There is also research on creating a self focusing laser burst, called a soliton, will create lasers that will not spread allowing a laser to maintain its intensity as it travels from one end of the solar system to the other.

And hi frequency Lasers using Xray or gamma rays actually would use a small nuke to generate a barrage of hi energy laser burst that would destroy any target at ranges of 1000 KM, but like particle beams would operate only in the vac### of space.

The Soviet Union actuallyt work on a hybrid weapon that used a laser to create a tube of super heated air that would allow a beam of positron ( anti electron) to travel thru the atomsphere and was the main effort of their star war program.

The same technique is used in an experimental stunning weapon that uses a laser to create ion channel thru the air allow an burst of electrical energy to stun a target like a long range Taser...

Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 8:27 pm

lol, well i said i never even looked into the topic before...I only know what i have heard from other....didnt think i was right, but it was worth a shot!!!

Giantevilhead

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 11:39 pm

Phasers are made of magic since when they vaporize something, they just make it disappear.

Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Aug. 30 2004, 11:45 pm

That had to be the dumbest statement i heard today....


CONGRATS!!!

Teta

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Report this Aug. 31 2004, 4:25 pm

i second that

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Aug. 31 2004, 8:38 pm

i can't tell if he/she is joking

lanceromega

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Report this Aug. 31 2004, 9:12 pm

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 31 2004, 5:38 pm)
i can't tell if he/she is joking

actually they are right, phaser are magic, the energy require to vaporize a person would create a expanding bubble of super heated stream that should burn everything with a meter or two of the target..

So it is magic...Hehehehehe

Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:08 am

OR....

It's Star Trek, a sci-fi show and they can do what they want because of that fact! it's called plot convenience

Vold

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:09 am

I'm not sure if this is old or new news.

But recently i saw a documentary about science is trying to copy the powers of Marvel heroes.

1 of them is Cyclop's Optic Beam.

the scientist manage to make a very good laser canon, that can be use to defend against incoming howitzer shells.

dang powerful & invisible.

now that i mentioned it, r we suppose to be able to see the laser as shows show?

from what i saw in real life, it seems to be practically invisible.

:)

Borg_Unicomplex

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:14 am

Ya, i think cutting lazer...or more powerful ones are invisible...

But are lazers like red or blue lazers on walkman's and games invisible to?

Vold

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:29 am

even a laser pen is invisible.

well the line is invisible but when it touches something it becomes visible as its being blocked.

So the possible reason we can see lines sometimes is because there are lots of dense molecules in its way like dust.

:)

lanceromega

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:32 am

Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Aug. 31 2004, 9:14 pm)
Ya, i think cutting lazer...or more powerful ones are invisible...

But are lazers like red or blue lazers on walkman's and games invisible to?

the fact is that most lasers that would be used as weapon would be invisible. CO2 lasers used as cutting laser uses ultraviolet frequencies and the lasers used for Antimissiles laser by the airforce uses Infrared.

even lasers using visible light are only visible if traveling thru a cloud of dust or if reflected/scatter off an object...

TheBorgz

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Report this Sep. 01 2004, 12:33 am

Phasers are not lasers they are energy which is directed  towards a target to cause a certain amt of damage

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