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Creating Warp Drive

decoder34

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Report this Sep. 23 2004, 8:38 am

AquamonkeyEG.... are u some sort of teacher? ;) cuz ur smart! i think what u say is cool... u give ur opinion in very consise arguments... im impressed! (or do u just know what books to quote from? ;))
can i just ask, what do u do? cuz ur a hell of a trek guy too!

btw... whats happened to nostadame??? :eyesroll:

Dan

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Sep. 23 2004, 5:26 pm

i am no teacher. i am a sophomore at MIT majoring in Aerospace Engineering. i am also taking classes in philosophy and linguistics. i've been watching star trek since i was 4 (middle of TNG's run)

decoder34

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Report this Sep. 24 2004, 6:23 am

ur definatly in the right corses! lol....
id love to be good enough to go to MIT.... im a engineer and scientist... and a big trekkie! lol
thanks for the info! :)
good luck in studies!!!

Dan :)

Kahlessreborn

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Report this Oct. 01 2004, 12:12 am

Quote (lanceromega @ Sep. 06 2004, 11:37 pm)
Quote (vixis738 @ Sep. 06 2004, 6:32 pm)
Quote (Kingspock @ Aug. 31 2004, 2:11 pm)
We could always have fusion reactors.

Fusion reactors are extremely large at the moment.  For example, the Z-Machine at Sandia National Labs takes up an entire building; however, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it produces more than 10x the amount of power used in the world with one firing.

yes, but they can be made small. Especially in the case of a Helium 3 fueled reactor that would not even need shielding.

Helium 3 when it undergoes fusion doesnot release any neutrons.

Now Helium 3 on Earth is extremely rare, but I heard that our moon  has abundent natural quanities, well abundent relative too our own quanties, and might be the best reason for going back to the mooin to setup remote mining operations.

lanceromega

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Report this Oct. 01 2004, 1:35 am

Quote (Kahlessreborn @ Sep. 30 2004, 9:12 pm)
Quote (lanceromega @ Sep. 06 2004, 11:37 pm)
Quote (vixis738 @ Sep. 06 2004, 6:32 pm)
Quote (Kingspock @ Aug. 31 2004, 2:11 pm)
We could always have fusion reactors.

Fusion reactors are extremely large at the moment. For example, the Z-Machine at Sandia National Labs takes up an entire building; however, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it produces more than 10x the amount of power used in the world with one firing.

yes, but they can be made small. Especially in the case of a Helium 3 fueled reactor that would not even need shielding.

Helium 3 when it undergoes fusion doesnot release any neutrons.

Now Helium 3 on Earth is extremely rare, but I heard that our moon has abundent natural quanities, well abundent relative too our own quanties, and might be the best reason for going back to the mooin to setup remote mining operations.

actually He3 being on the moon may be the real reason behind Bush wanting the usa to return to it.

Both India and China have also began programs to send personal to the moon, and have expressed interest in He3 fusion research...

He3 will be the fuel of the future and the nation that controls access to lunar source of this element will be the ruler of the world...

decoder34

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Report this Oct. 01 2004, 8:00 am

Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 01 2004, 6:35 am)
Quote (Kahlessreborn @ Sep. 30 2004, 9:12 pm)
Quote (lanceromega @ Sep. 06 2004, 11:37 pm)
Quote (vixis738 @ Sep. 06 2004, 6:32 pm)
Quote (Kingspock @ Aug. 31 2004, 2:11 pm)
We could always have fusion reactors.

Fusion reactors are extremely large at the moment.  For example, the Z-Machine at Sandia National Labs takes up an entire building; however, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it produces more than 10x the amount of power used in the world with one firing.

yes, but they can be made small. Especially in the case of a Helium 3 fueled reactor that would not even need shielding.

Helium 3 when it undergoes fusion doesnot release any neutrons.

Now Helium 3 on Earth is extremely rare, but I heard that our moon  has abundent natural quanities, well abundent relative too our own quanties, and might be the best reason for going back to the mooin to setup remote mining operations.

actually He3 being on the moon may be the real reason behind Bush wanting the usa to return to it.

Both India and China have also began programs to send personal to the moon, and have expressed interest in He3 fusion research...

He3 will be the fuel of the future and the nation that controls access to lunar source of this element will be the ruler of the world...

and whos gonna get it? USA! the americans have the most resorces, equiptment and money.... although unfair to other nations, i think USA should go for it... aslong as its gona be shared?
it wil be of great use to anyone and everyone...

:cool:
Dan

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Report this Oct. 01 2004, 4:03 pm

Quote (decoder34 @ Oct. 01 2004, 8:00 am)
Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 01 2004, 6:35 am)
Quote (Kahlessreborn @ Sep. 30 2004, 9:12 pm)
Quote (lanceromega @ Sep. 06 2004, 11:37 pm)
Quote (vixis738 @ Sep. 06 2004, 6:32 pm)
Quote (Kingspock @ Aug. 31 2004, 2:11 pm)
We could always have fusion reactors.

Fusion reactors are extremely large at the moment.  For example, the Z-Machine at Sandia National Labs takes up an entire building; however, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it produces more than 10x the amount of power used in the world with one firing.

yes, but they can be made small. Especially in the case of a Helium 3 fueled reactor that would not even need shielding.

Helium 3 when it undergoes fusion doesnot release any neutrons.

Now Helium 3 on Earth is extremely rare, but I heard that our moon  has abundent natural quanities, well abundent relative too our own quanties, and might be the best reason for going back to the mooin to setup remote mining operations.

actually He3 being on the moon may be the real reason behind Bush wanting the usa to return to it.

Both India and China have also began programs to send personal to the moon, and have expressed interest in He3 fusion research...

He3 will be the fuel of the future and the nation that controls access to lunar source of this element will be the ruler of the world...

and whos gonna get it? USA! the americans have the most resorces, equiptment and money.... although unfair to other nations, i think USA should go for it... aslong as its gona be shared?
it wil be of great use to anyone and everyone...

:cool:
Dan

Of course this goes against the the idea of cislunar, interstellar and plaentary bodies not being owned by any one country.

lanceromega

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Report this Oct. 01 2004, 6:57 pm

Quote (Kahlessreborn @ Oct. 01 2004, 1:03 pm)
Quote (decoder34 @ Oct. 01 2004, 8:00 am)
Quote (lanceromega @ Oct. 01 2004, 6:35 am)
Quote (Kahlessreborn @ Sep. 30 2004, 9:12 pm)
Quote (lanceromega @ Sep. 06 2004, 11:37 pm)
Quote (vixis738 @ Sep. 06 2004, 6:32 pm)
Quote (Kingspock @ Aug. 31 2004, 2:11 pm)
We could always have fusion reactors.

Fusion reactors are extremely large at the moment. For example, the Z-Machine at Sandia National Labs takes up an entire building; however, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it produces more than 10x the amount of power used in the world with one firing.

yes, but they can be made small. Especially in the case of a Helium 3 fueled reactor that would not even need shielding.

Helium 3 when it undergoes fusion doesnot release any neutrons.

Now Helium 3 on Earth is extremely rare, but I heard that our moon has abundent natural quanities, well abundent relative too our own quanties, and might be the best reason for going back to the mooin to setup remote mining operations.

actually He3 being on the moon may be the real reason behind Bush wanting the usa to return to it.

Both India and China have also began programs to send personal to the moon, and have expressed interest in He3 fusion research...

He3 will be the fuel of the future and the nation that controls access to lunar source of this element will be the ruler of the world...

and whos gonna get it? USA! the americans have the most resorces, equiptment and money.... although unfair to other nations, i think USA should go for it... aslong as its gona be shared?
it wil be of great use to anyone and everyone...

:cool:
Dan

Of course this goes against the the idea of cislunar, interstellar and plaentary bodies not being owned by any one country.

wouldn't be the first treaty broken, let look at the ABM treaty, the deployment of weapons in space, etc....

Ellessar

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Report this Oct. 03 2004, 3:12 am

Quote (lanceromega @ Aug. 31 2004, 9:07 pm)
Quote (Teta @ Aug. 31 2004, 3:28 am)
anyway, there is no one, anywhere, experimenting with warp drive. ion drive, now thats another matter, it is entirelly possable, they know it is, cos they have had extremely small tests of it, (a 200m2 engine, making 1 pound of thrust)

(kinda off topic) anti-matter is just about the most unstable form of anything ever, apart from magnetic containment, we have no way ofstoring more than one or two anti-whatevers, warp drive wont be possable till we can store more

Cern lab has store over 5000 atoms of antihydrogen.

As for working on warp drive, see the link I provided before for the Break thru physics. they are a group of physicist looking at revolutionary methods of propelling a craft without the use of rocket or ion drives.

YOu beat me too it.  I was about to post the same thing reguarding anti-matter atoms.  In fact the first multiple contained anti-matter hydrogen atoms were created way back in the mid 90s.  95 or so if I remember correctly.  I remember following the project.  I think they managed to create 9 or so and store them for several sesonds in our universe.  Needlesws to say they have imporved greatly since then.

As for the idea of ion engines.  Yes it si a good form of sub-light travel.  But ion engines cannot get you to lightspeed and faster.  You get into issues of realitivity if you begin to travel near the speed of light.  Time especially gets a bick tricky at ultra high velocities.  That is why you hear about "warp-fields" in Star Trek.  You cannot simply push a craft beyond the speed of light.  You must some how fold or warp space.  Or you hear of ideas of travel in higher spatial dimesions ie "hyperspace."

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