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Sep. 27 2004, 10:27 am
That just doesn't make any sense; it never did in physics class either!
The way I see the two most likely ways to go faster than the speed of light, or appear you are is:
1. You in your vessel accelerate to almost the speed of light, and then you have some fancy little device that moves the universe in the opposite direction at the same velocity. Which to you or the universe you would be going 1.9infinante times the speed of light when in reality your not!
2. Assuming a higher dimension does not have the same limits here but yet is bound by a sort of same "map" you could accelerate to greater speed and exit on the other side... There are many examples of that!
But I never got this, what does speeds have to do with time? I know how time fits into mathematical equations, but time is only a measurement device so those equations work! How could that make things reverse themselves?
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Sep. 27 2004, 10:49 am
Speed has nothing to do with time.
Only thing with light speed is you travel at a fraction of a second and so the mistaken relationhship that light speed is time travel
and also time doesnt exist thats a fact
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Sep. 27 2004, 10:52 am
| Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 27 2004, 7:27 am) | The way I see the two most likely ways to go faster than the speed of light, or appear you are is:
1. You in your vessel accelerate to almost the speed of light, and then you have some fancy little device that moves the universe in the opposite direction at the same velocity. Which to you or the universe you would be going 1.9infinante times the speed of light when in reality your not! |
 Nope, sorry! Einstein's Theory of Relativity states that is impossible. No matter what you do, you cannot exceed light speed. Yes, even relative to something going the other way - it's still only light speed. If you shine a torch in front of you whilst travelling on a train going at 90 mph, the beam of light is still going at light speed from your perspective, and still going at light speed from the perspective of someone outside the train. Sounds impossible, but that's the way it is. It's to do with the dilation of Time, and how it moves at different rates depending on how fast you are moving. The effct of Time on an object travelling at near-light speed is greatly reduced. If you managed to get to lightspeed, you would arrive (from your perspective) instantaneously, whilst the passage of Time in the world around you will have flown by quickly (infinitely).  |
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Sep. 27 2004, 10:56 am
| Quote (TheBorgz @ Sep. 27 2004, 7:49 am) | | Speed has nothing to do with time. |
Speed has an awful lot to do with time. | Quote | | and also time doesnt exist thats a fact |
Time most certainly does exist, depending on your definition of 'exist'. |
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Sep. 27 2004, 10:57 am
| Quote (BlobInfinityCivic @ Sep. 27 2004, 3:45 am) | | I have a question. Say we had the ability to move an object faster than the speed of light and we used this ability to send a really super powerful telescope one hundred light years away from our planet. If we had that telescope zero in on our planet, would we be able to see a hundred years into the past? |
Yes we would heres why The telescope (this is with everything concened with light even our eyes.) would take in the same light ray that would have reached at that position in space whic left earth 100 years ago. Its a bit difficult to explain here ill try a fig. (Earth)---->(Light rays) The light ray takes 100years to travel from (Earth) to (Telescope). ------>(light rays) (telescope) So yes we would be seeing hundered years into the past as we are looking at light rays sent by earth 100years ago. |
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Sep. 27 2004, 10:58 am
The speed of light is not infinite though... And just because we have not encountered or detected something that can exceed that speed does not mean it doesn't exist. Einstein made that theory assuming the speed of light was the fastest anything can travel.... Whats if he is wrong? Then that little barrier of time will chance!
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:00 am
When an object is increased in Velocity it's perception of time does not change! The effect of time is not reduced! Why would you think that? Answer that and I will give a proper response but your answer will determine my response so I must wait!
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:04 am
| Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 27 2004, 7:58 am) | | The speed of light is not infinite though... |
No, the speed of light is measured by our current standards as 3,000,000 metres per second. Or 300,000 kilometres per second. Which is about 186,000 miles per second (I believe this is accurate). | Quote | | Then that little barrier of time will chance! |
The speed of light is not really a barrier for stopping us from travelling through time. Actually, I see it as more of a tool to help us. As I say, if you travel fast enough, you get places more quickly. At the speed of Light, you're basically time travelling into the Future. Cool, no? |
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:06 am
Time is only a measuring device its used to keep track of events that have happened.
The universe has always been in existance i some form or the other. We invented time to keep track of events IT IS NOT REAL not in this UNIVERSE
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:07 am
| Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 27 2004, 9:58 am) | | The speed of light is not infinite though... And just because we have not encountered or detected something that can exceed that speed does not mean it doesn't exist. Einstein made that theory assuming the speed of light was the fastest anything can travel.... Whats if he is wrong? Then that little barrier of time will chance! |
There are things that travel faster than light they are radio waves. |
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:10 am
| Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 27 2004, 8:00 am) | | When an object is increased in Velocity it's perception of time does not change! The effect of time is not reduced! Why would you think that? |
Because it's a proven fact..? Basically, that IS the theory of relativity. That's precisely what it's all about! It states that EVERYTHING in the Universe is relative. There is no absolute passage of Time; there is no absolute mass, or size, or distance, or speed or anything! And they all affect each other. As objects travel faster, the passage of Time is reduced; their size (in the direction they are travelling) is reduced (meaing they get shorter); their mass is increased; and the energy needed to move them is increased, also. An object that is travelling at 99.9 percent of light speed would be hundreds or thousands of times its original mass; it would be a fraction of its original length; and the passage of time would be greatly reduced for it. Again, this has been proven in experiments and backed up by countless formulas and research. Do a Google search for 'Relativity' and 'Speed of Light'... it's very interesting. |
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:10 am
Just because you move faster does not mean time will slow as a result!
If you break the speed of light and move faster all it means is you will reach your location faster!
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:12 am
| Quote (TheBorgz @ Sep. 27 2004, 8:06 am) | | The universe has always been in existance i some form or the other. We invented time to keep track of events IT IS NOT REAL not in this UNIVERSE |
Are you suggesting that before humans arrived, nothing ever moved? Of course Time is real. We didn't invent TIME, we invented the means to track it and to follow it! But it was always there! "Time is what stops everything from happening at once" ^ a great line!  |
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:13 am
| Quote (Borg_Unicomplex @ Sep. 27 2004, 8:10 am) | | Just because you move faster does not mean time will slow as a result! |
Yes it does! That's exactly what it means! Look it up! |
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Sep. 27 2004, 11:16 am
| Quote (TheBorgz @ Sep. 27 2004, 8:07 am) | | There are things that travel faster than light they are radio waves. |
Radio waves (as well as EVERY other form of wave within the 'Electromagnetic Spectrum' ) travels at Lightspeed within a vacuum (3,000,000 m/s). NOT faster. |
