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BORG INVASION

Commodore_64

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 3:39 am

Lets just say for arguments sake that a Borg cube managed to find it's way into the Star Wars universe and was ordered to start a full scale invasion.

What would be the most efficient way to conquer the galaxy?

If you feel it would take more than one Cube on a stealth mission then please feel free to explain how and why?

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 4:22 am

Quote (Commodore64 @ Aug. 09 2004, 12:39 am)
Lets just say for arguments sake that a Borg cube managed to find it's way into the Star Wars universe and was ordered to start a full scale invasion.

What would be the most efficient way to conquer the galaxy?

If you feel it would take more than one Cube on a stealth mission then please feel free to explain how and why?

First Borg use stealth!!!! oh yes I can see it coming up to the Falcon and announcing, "We are the Borg Resistance is futile"....

And conquest of the SW Galaxy? how when a single craft owned by a Bounty Hunter had Mines that yield was in the Gigatons...As powerful as the full Photon torpedoe load of galaxy class cruiser. As shown by the episode " Pegasus


TNG Season 7, Ep# 164: "Pegasus"

SCRIPT: The ship nears the Devolin system -- a solar system that never coalesced into discrete planetary bodies. It's a swirling disc of rock and other matter.
RIKER: I recommend we destroy the asteroid. It would take almost all our photon torpedoes, but it would preclude any possibility of the Pegasus falling into Romulan hands

The asteriod about 15 Km in length and 5 to 6 KM in width would have been easily shattered by the mines that "slave one carried".

check out the photo of slave one destroying asteriods:

[http://www.stardestroyer.net/AOTC/Slave-1-Seismic-Charge.jpg

Any patrol craft carrying a standard Turbolaser can unlease a blast of over 200 gigaton as shown by the weapons of Troop transport from the clone wars, and point defense laser measured in kilotons....

Not that the Borg wouldn't try.. All I can say that afterward some junk dealer on some back water sw planet would have a whole lot of strange droids to sale.

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 8:05 am

they assimilate an easy target and get their hands on the deflector systems and lazer weaponry and add it to their own and improve on it. then they take another ship that is more powerful and assimilate it. till finally they assimilate the death star and go on a rampage throughout the galaxy

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 12:08 pm

THe starwars galaxy people would use the force againt the borg. Anyway, without the force, the borg could conquer them easy

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 12:53 pm

umm... only a very few pple in the starwars universe can actually use the force, and it doesn't exactly repel the blast from a turbolazer

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 1:00 pm

Quote (peb1991 @ Aug. 09 2004, 9:08 am)
THe starwars galaxy people would use the force againt the borg. Anyway, without the force, the borg could conquer them easy

Correction, the Borg couldn't conquer them easily.  The Borg would be destroyed by backwater patrol crafts, the Borg don't exactly have the tactical gene t win major engagements.

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 1:28 pm

The rebels would be quickly overwhelmed by one cube. X-wings wouldn't stand a chance against a cube. The borg would probably have to send a fleet of cubes because the death star would be hard to handle. Three cubes could probably take on the emporor's star destroyer.

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 1:36 pm

Quote (Defiant1989 @ Aug. 09 2004, 10:28 am)
The rebels would be quickly overwhelmed by one cube. X-wings wouldn't stand a chance against a cube. The borg would probably have to send a fleet of cubes because the death star would be hard to handle. Three cubes could probably take on the emporor's star destroyer.

1. The Rebels have capital ships. They have ships that can surrvive in a firefight with an ISD (and in Home One's case, can win) due to their back up shield generators. They have weapons in the GT range which can shred a Borg cube. Hell, they amassed a fleet which was capable of bringing down the Executor's shields (a ship that can take ungodly amounts of damage, including 3 ISDs ramming it when they were coming out of lightspeed).

2. One ISD can mow down numerous Borg cubes seeing as though a MTL is at the very least 200GT, with HTLs being ~2-5TT based on size of the turret and the Acclamator's turrets.

3. The Cube is out numbered even to the Rebels.

4. Prove a Borg cube could stand up to that kind of firepower.

5. They can't adapt so there's no way of shrugging off the firepower of Imperial/Rebel ships.

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 5:48 pm

y can't the borg adapt?? once they adapt they can absorb most of the energy in a blast without depleting their shields

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 6:01 pm

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 09 2004, 9:48 am)
y can't the borg adapt?? once they adapt they can absorb most of the energy in a blast without depleting their shields

Nothing to adapt to. There is no frequancy in Wars' weapons so they can't adapt that way. I know they can triangulate their shields or something like that, but that doesn't mean they can surrive TT level firepower.

EDIT: Can you prove they can absorb TT levels ranging from lower estimates of 6TT to higher estimates of ~70-100TT?

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 8:33 pm

First go to Coruscant. They can assmilate the Galactic senate! They could rule the entire galaxy from there!

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Report this Aug. 09 2004, 10:11 pm

Quote (CaptBraxton @ Aug. 09 2004, 12:33 pm)
First go to Coruscant. They can assmilate the Galactic senate! They could rule the entire galaxy from there!

Joking Response: "The chair recognizes the senator from the sovereign system of Borg Cube." :D

Real Response: Coruscant's fleets or planetary weapon shoot the sucker down faster then the Borg can say, "Resistance is..."

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Report this Aug. 10 2004, 12:00 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 09 2004, 2:48 pm)
y can't the borg adapt?? once they adapt they can absorb most of the energy in a blast without depleting their shields.

Hummm like the one Borg Cube adapted to the Combine firepower of the Federation Fleet in "First contact"

Adaption only insure that the shield are tune to most efficient Frequency of the energy attack used against the Borg, the shield must still some how dissipate the Heat energy of the attack..

As it stand a single medium turbolaser would dump more energy into the Borg shield that it can ever hope to handle.

Prime example of this is "Desecent II" when the Enterprise hid from a borg ship by plunging into the Corona of a near by star.  In this incident, the Enterprise-D moved deep into the corona of a star using special metaphasic shields, and its chief engineer estimated that its shields would fail within 5 minutes under this bombardment. Based on the presence of a habitable planet in that star system as well as the colour spectrum of the star, we can conclude that its star was very similar to Earth's star in terms of general luminosity. We can estimate corona power intensity to be roughly 60 MW/m2, since that is the approximate power intensity at the surface of our Sun (note that the corona is outside the star). If we use a 100,000 m2 profile area estimate, total absorption is roughly 6 TW, which would add up to roughly 420 kilotons (let's just say =-megaton).

Which indicate that the maxium energy that the Borg shield could handle would be in the low Terrawatt range, or that it can handle a low megatonnage attack. compare this to 200 gigaton figure given for Medium turbolaser from Attack of the Clone cross section book, no borg ship could survive this amount of energy.

Now a single concussion missile, ( which most private mechant ship carry to defend against pirates ( Solo's falcon carrying 4 of them) ) can deliver a yield of 190 MT which is delivered via impact, combine with the kinetic energy of the missiles ( in "Star by star" concussion missile used by the Falcon struck target at 90% the speed of light) would easily penerate and disable any cube, so even jumping a fairly easy target like a merchant craft would be fatal.

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Report this Aug. 10 2004, 1:26 am

what if a borg tried to assimilate Jabba the Hut? I dont think so...the nano-probes would never reach the surface of Jabba's skin cause his is so Gi-normous  They would just run out. LOL. j/j.

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Report this Aug. 10 2004, 1:48 am

well after a few trial and error the borg would mass a fleet and go after smaller targets like ever one says they adapt which in this case they willlearn to adapt to a better srat such as assmilate smaller stuff then send tech home star building cubes whith that tech or just refitt there ships wich would happen pretty fast

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