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Goa'uld VS. Enterprise E

Enterprise1701f

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Report this Jul. 29 2004, 10:15 pm

I like both Star Trek and Star Gate and am torn between the both of them. I personally like Enterprises Chances

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 12:04 am

Quote (Enterprise1701f @ July 29 2004, 7:15 pm)
I like both Star Trek and Star Gate and am torn between the both of them. I personally like Enterprises Chances

humm we seen Gould's pyramid ships laught off strikes of 500 Megaton H bombs ( 2 at the same time)... Their shields are way too powerful.....

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 1:48 am

the photons and quantems in startrek are way more powerful.. beside personally i think startrek tech are more advanced.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 6:54 am

Quote (ramsesqu @ July 29 2004, 10:48 pm)
the photons and quantems in startrek are way more powerful.. beside personally i think startrek tech are more advanced.

Wrong calcuation show that Photons are a mere 67 megatons, and quantum around 150 MT far short of the pair of 500MT bombs the Earth deployed against Anubis mother ship..

While The Gaulb tech look like something out of a bad mummy movie, their power generation, Hyperdrive and shield technology is more advance.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 9:48 am

photons are at several isotons which isotons are more powerful than a Megaton. So go figure.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 10:32 am

Quote (Enterprise1701f @ July 30 2004, 6:48 am)
photons are at several isotons which isotons are more powerful than a Megaton. So go figure.

Hate to tell you there is no metric unit called iso... Which means individual.... So the yield would be one ton.

The yield of a photon torp. is computed using the writer guide and tech manuals that state that it uses 1.5 KG of antimatter reacting with matter.

Assume 100% efficienty we get the 65 megatons. Quantum torpedoes according to the iso standard would be 2.5X more powerful... So you go figure or at least check out past forums on the matter...

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 10:54 am

Actually the naquada(sp?) bombs the SGC sent at those Ha'taks were 1 Gigaton each.

That, combined with the fact we're told a shot from one mothership is 200 megatons (when Dr. Jackson went to the alternate Earth where the Go'ould invaded) and the 64 megaton photon torps come from non-canon sources, the E-E gets pwnned!!!!1111oneoneone :D

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 11:43 am

Ent-E

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 1:38 pm

iso to is presumed to represent onethousand megatons by the writers

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 1:42 pm

Quote (Enterprise1701f @ July 30 2004, 10:38 am)
iso to is presumed to represent onethousand megatons by the writers

BS, where have they ever said on the show that an isoton is a thousand megatons?

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 3:35 pm

it is in some of the back stage stuff online.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 6:01 pm

i thnk the ent-e would put up a good fight and win

And has everyone forgotten the little thing they call phasers, they are a damn sight more effective against sheilds than photon torpedos. and voyager blew up the carteker array (18 times bigger) with 2 tri-cobalt torps, enterprise has some of these

but the motherships are a bit rubbish anyway.

and the things earth sent against the motherships were conventional, warheads.
these are matter anti-matter warheads.

and the gou'lds only have energy sheilds not singularity sheilds like ent-e

i think they both stand a pretty even chance, and the mother ship is VERY innacurate with its guns.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 7:44 pm

Quote (Enterprise1701f @ July 30 2004, 12:35 pm)
it is in some of the back stage stuff online.

Only on-screen counts in these kinds of discussions, thanks in part to Paramount.

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and the things earth sent against the motherships were conventional, warheads.
these are matter anti-matter warheads

Wrong, they were nukes combined with weapons-grade naquada, each one on the order of one gigaton.  Even going by the TM stats a QT would be like a signal flare compared to those.

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Report this Jul. 30 2004, 9:58 pm

startrek tech are more advanced one example is the matter/energy transporter, enterprise does not need a "ring".
and a conventional nuke in space is not as powerful as it should be, there will be no shockwaves so less damage, but photons and quantems are different they produce pure energy, and by the look of it federation can control the direction ofhte blast wave.. so combine different factor photons are much better and much more deadly weapon. goa'uld mother ship is massive in size buy have pure manuverbillity and as the enterprise demestrated its power in nemises, a full spread weapon fire will certainly disable badly damage the sitting pyramind duck. the goa'uld mother ship can launch its fighters but the little craft without shield will just like the episode in VOY where janeway meet a ppl hybernate for 500 years, they won't be a threat, the glliders will jsut like a bunch of flies try to eat a lion.

and of course photons and quentems can be modified on occasion their strenght can increase much much more.

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Report this Jul. 31 2004, 12:18 am

Quote (ramsesqu @ July 30 2004, 6:58 pm)
startrek tech are more advanced one example is the matter/energy transporter, enterprise does not need a "ring".
and a conventional nuke in space is not as powerful as it should be, there will be no shockwaves so less damage, but photons and quantems are different they produce pure energy, and by the look of it federation can control the direction ofhte blast wave.. so combine different factor photons are much better and much more deadly weapon. goa'uld mother ship is massive in size buy have pure manuverbillity and as the enterprise demestrated its power in nemises, a full spread weapon fire will certainly disable badly damage the sitting pyramind duck. the goa'uld mother ship can launch its fighters but the little craft without shield will just like the episode in VOY where janeway meet a ppl hybernate for 500 years, they won't be a threat, the glliders will jsut like a bunch of flies try to eat a lion.

and of course photons and quentems can be modified on occasion their strenght can increase much much more.

You still don't get it, do you?

Go'aould motherships shrugged off GIGATONS of energy like it wasn't a thing, even the most optimistic yields of torpedos can't come close to that.

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