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Can the Borg addapt to bullets?

lanceromega

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 1:30 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 05 2004, 10:28 pm)
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Another advance Laser weapon would also create Soliton ( these are self focusing packets of energy) but to do this in the vacuum of space would require intensity of laser light many times what we can produce today, but if we could we would have a beam of energy that could travel from one end of the galaxy to the other without spreading..

cool :)

yes so why didn't the navigational deflector stop the beam?..

or better yet why did the bring up shields when facing the talarians in suddenly humans..

Suddenly Human"


DATA: "Talarian warships are limited to neutral particle weapons, high-energy X-ray lasers and merculite rockets. No match for the Enterprise, Captain."
RIKER: "Geordi, the Talarians are moving into attack posture. Classic triangular envelopment."

GEORDI: "I've tapped the impulse engines for additional power to shields, Commander. We're ready."

Humm here The Talarian have xray lasers and shields needed to tap impulse engine,

Plus the deflector shield comment was not from the emissary episode ( loud as a whisper) but from The Outrageous Okona" where the ships had laughably unpowered lasers.

what actually happen in "loud as a whisper" was Picard refuse to enter the system till crease fire was in effect:

TNG Season 2, Ep# 32: "Loud as a Whisper"

PICARD VO: Captain's log, Stardate 42411.2 ... the two sides of a bitter little planetary conflict have petitioned Starfleet to transport to their world a mediator they have mutually selected. Our orders are transportation only -- no interference, no responsibilities. It is a mission much to my liking.
...
WORF: I'm reading laser activity in the Solari Solar System!
RIKER: How concentrated is the activity?
WORF: It is localized -- and very intense.
RIKER: So much for the cease-fire.
PICARD: Open hailing frequencies.
WORF: I can establish voice only.
PICARD: This is Captain Jean-Luc Picard, commander of the Federation starship USS Enterprise. If you continue to violate the rules by breaking the cease-fire, I will abort this mission.
FIRST LEADER: You have no jurisdiction here, Picard. Where is Riva?
PICARD: Riva is in charge of the summit. I command the ship that brings him. I will not endanger my ship under any circumstances

AquamonkeyEG

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 1:46 am

because the borg dissabled their defenses

lanceromega

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 1:59 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 05 2004, 10:46 pm)
because the borg dissabled their defenses

NO They drain their shields, the rest of ship still had power, like the Phasers...

or better yet why did the bring up shields when facing the talarians in suddenly humans..

Suddenly Human"


DATA: "Talarian warships are limited to neutral particle weapons, high-energy X-ray lasers and merculite rockets. No match for the Enterprise, Captain."
RIKER: "Geordi, the Talarians are moving into attack posture. Classic triangular envelopment."

GEORDI: "I've tapped the impulse engines for additional power to shields, Commander. We're ready."

Humm here The Talarian have xray lasers and shields needed to tap impulse engine,

Plus the deflector shield comment was not from the emissary episode ( loud as a whisper) but from The Outrageous Okona" where the ships had laughably underpowered lasers.

what actually happen in "loud as a whisper" was Picard refuse to enter the system till crease fire was in effect:

TNG Season 2, Ep# 32: "Loud as a Whisper"

PICARD VO: Captain's log, Stardate 42411.2 ... the two sides of a bitter little planetary conflict have petitioned Starfleet to transport to their world a mediator they have mutually selected. Our orders are transportation only -- no interference, no responsibilities. It is a mission much to my liking.
...
WORF: I'm reading laser activity in the Solari Solar System!
RIKER: How concentrated is the activity?
WORF: It is localized -- and very intense.
RIKER: So much for the cease-fire.
PICARD: Open hailing frequencies.
WORF: I can establish voice only.
PICARD: This is Captain Jean-Luc Picard, commander of the Federation starship USS Enterprise. If you continue to violate the rules by breaking the cease-fire, I will abort this mission.
FIRST LEADER: You have no jurisdiction here, Picard. Where is Riva?
PICARD: Riva is in charge of the summit. I command the ship that brings him. I will not endanger my ship under any circumstances

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 2:13 am

i'm not argueing the hazards of high powered lasers ne more, obviously anything can be dangerous enough to warrant shields if it has enough energy.

haha most of these episodes of TNG i havn't even heard of b4!! i only started watching halfway thru the series and i was only 5

lanceromega

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 5:44 am

Quote (AquamonkeyEG @ Aug. 05 2004, 11:13 pm)
i'm not argueing the hazards of high powered lasers ne more, obviously anything can be dangerous enough to warrant shields if it has enough energy.

haha most of these episodes of TNG i havn't even heard of b4!! i only started watching halfway thru the series and i was only 5

well it is a myth in the star Trek community that Enterprise is immune to lasers, not realizing that lasers are electromagnetic radiation like the output of Photon torpedoes or the number of episodes where the enterprise have been threaten by lasers and other form of electromagnetic radiation.

It like the myth of the Borg immunity to anything that they have adapted too, enought raw energy ( Like the running battle in "First Contact" ) it that the Borg ability makes their defenses more effective to frequency of that attack. It like ECW where to be effective a jammer unit must first find the Freq of the radar it is jammering. You can still Burn thu the Jamming with enought power.

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Report this Aug. 06 2004, 7:13 am

i mean obviously the borg aren't immune, they did sustain heavy damage to their outer hull. they had just adapted to a point so as not to have the whole ship destroyed.

didn't the feds think to concentrate their fire on 1 spot to begin with?? it wouldn't have to be the spot picard picked, but concentrating their fire would do more damage and penetrate the outer hull rather than just scorching the surface. granted due to the decentralized nature of borg ships this might not do much at all, but hell at least it's something. and it has been proven in VOY that once u get inside the ship they are easier to destroy.

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Report this Aug. 10 2004, 11:24 am

No way.  tHeir sheilds only protect against energy weapons.  Worf could slam the butt of his rifle into a Borg drone and it isn't protected from that.

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