Cptkirkfan18 GROUP: Members POSTS: 706 
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Jun. 01 2004, 12:45 am
In Star Trek, they always mention coordinates of their position. I understand the whole X,Y,Z thing, but I do not understand this. Here is an example;
In the TOS episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", Spock mentions Cheron is located at coordinates 403 Mark 7 and Mark 9. In "The Wrath of Khan", the coordinates 22,87,04 are mentioned during the training simulation.
Is 22,87,04 a location? What does Mark mean? All of this I've researched on the internet but couldn't find a understandable answer.

whitetiger0990 GROUP: Members POSTS: 65 
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Jun. 01 2004, 9:09 am
I know for sure Mark is the elevation relating to the ship But I don't know how spacial coordinates work. I think it's all related to the ship like
22,87,04
22 to the right/left of the ship 87 forward/behind the ship and 04 up/down
Thats my guess

Enterprise1701f GROUP: Members POSTS: 754 
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Jun. 01 2004, 10:50 am
here's the lowdown "turn to heading 111 mark 19" it means turn 111 degrees starboard (or port depending if it it past 180) and angle up 19 degrees (or down if it is past 270 degrees) the other could be a galatic coordinate system like latitude and longitude

Cptkirkfan18 GROUP: Members POSTS: 706 
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Jun. 01 2004, 3:58 pm
Quote  here's the lowdown "turn to heading 111 mark 19" it means turn 111 degrees starboard (or port depending if it it past 180) and angle up 19 degrees (or down if it is past 270 degrees) the other could be a galatic coordinate system like latitude and longitude

That is what I do not understand, the galactic coordinate system. How would I figure this out?

benstwa1988 GROUP: Members POSTS: 78 
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Jun. 01 2004, 4:41 pm
Basically, the coordinates are, for example, latitude, longitude and depth. The problem is you need an accurate map of the galaxy in order to calculate coordinates.

Cptkirkfan18 GROUP: Members POSTS: 706 
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Jun. 01 2004, 4:45 pm
Star Trek Star Charts the book is the map of the galaxy, is that accurate enough?

benstwa1988 GROUP: Members POSTS: 78 
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Jun. 01 2004, 4:59 pm
It could be, but it all depends on the scale of the grids, like on an ordinance survey map. I'm not even sure how they do it on star trek, where they start from, all I know is what I posted above.

Cptkirkfan18 GROUP: Members POSTS: 706 
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Jun. 02 2004, 1:10 am
While watching the Star Trek Season 1 DVD set I got for Christmas, I was watching the episode "110101".
Near the part where they leave the holodeck, they go up to the computer control interface on the wall on the arch. Captain Picard asks for position report and the computer replies:
"Coordinates 4159.26 by 81921 by 312  heading 233 Mark 45"
now those coordinates are much larger than the 22,87,04 that I posted above that I heard in Star Trek II "Wrath of Khan", can anyone explain?

Garbaron GROUP: Members POSTS: 575 
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Jun. 02 2004, 3:34 pm
"Coordinates 4159.26 by 81921 by 312  heading 233 Mark 45"
Ok let's see:
Assume the galactic coordinates are Cartesian coordinates then:
x=4159.26 y=81921 z=312
results in a vector v = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2 and gives the target system position from the coordinates base (lets say earth)
from a ships point of view they use spherical coordinates (just two angles required) then
heading 233 Mark 45 (roughly behind your left shoulder pointing up on 45 degrees) gives the direction and elevation to the target system with the ship it self as coordinate base.
Simple as that. (my interpretation of course)

jttm98 GROUP: Members POSTS: 58 
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Jun. 02 2004, 4:10 pm
Quote (Garbaron @ June 01 2004, 1:34 pm)  "Coordinates 4159.26 by 81921 by 312  heading 233 Mark 45"
Ok let's see:
Assume the galactic coordinates are Cartesian coordinates then:
x=4159.26 y=81921 z=312
results in a vector v = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2 and gives the target system position from the coordinates base (lets say earth)
from a ships point of view they use spherical coordinates (just two angles required) then
heading 233 Mark 45 (roughly behind your left shoulder pointing up on 45 degrees) gives the direction and elevation to the target system with the ship it self as coordinate base.
Simple as that. (my interpretation of course) 
I don't think the size of the numbers is important. In real life positions are given by two number coordinates (eg 342 by 040) representing latitude and longitude (although it would probably be written as 342040). The size of the number determines the accuracy, so 34 by 04 is the same as 342 by 040, the only difference being the level of accuracy. Of course, Picard's numbers are each different sizes, which is bizarre
