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recremsirrah

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Report this Mar. 25 2004, 7:41 pm

Radiation that brakes down organic matter at the subatomic level!

At the subatomic level, there ain't no difference between organic and non-organic matter!!!!

grr...

Xelopheris

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Report this Mar. 25 2004, 11:10 pm

It could be that it creates fusion reactions with Carbon, thus eliminating the building element of life.

Megadonasaur

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Report this Mar. 26 2004, 3:20 pm

:laugh: Who cares?  It's sci-fi!

screwstartrekdotcom

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 12:29 pm

much of Star Trek is scientifically bogus.  I always cringe when I hear people say they learned science from Star Trek.  That thought is...scary.

recremsirrah

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 5:40 pm

Quote (Starship_Trooper @ Mar. 27 2004, 12:29 pm)
much of Star Trek is scientifically bogus. I always cringe when I hear people say they learned science from Star Trek. That thought is...scary.

That is absolutely not true. Star Trek, especially in the non-TOS series, has always been scientifically remarkably sound. Sure, there are some truly great blunders (an object being frozen to -10 K is my favorite) but for the most part it is fairly reliable and it is definitely a lot more reliable than most science fiction.

recremsirrah

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 5:41 pm

Quote (Xelopheris @ Mar. 24 2004, 11:10 pm)
It could be that it creates fusion reactions with Carbon, thus eliminating the building element of life.

Nothing subatomic could fuse with carbon and no radiation could fuse with carbon. Sorry, no.

bad_karma

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 6:01 pm

Not exactly what i think he means is that that radiation could cause carbon atoms to fuse together, now since we are talking about nucleons fusing and not atoms bonding, then you could describe it from the sub-atomic view point, another thing it may be doing (which makes more scientific sense) is causing fission, if the radiation is giving off lots of neutrons then they would blow apart matter, and since biological matter is a deicate balance, it only takes a little damage to kill a person, maybe what they mean on trek is that its very dangerous to living matter because living matter is so delicate compared to many types of non-living matter.

Remember this is set in the future, and precisely because of that it could be radiation that could affect atoms such as carbon in ways that you cant imagine

bad_karma

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 6:08 pm

Quote (recremsirrah @ Mar. 28 2004, 2:41 pm)
Quote (Xelopheris @ Mar. 24 2004, 11:10 pm)
It could be that it creates fusion reactions with Carbon, thus eliminating the building element of life.

Nothing subatomic could fuse with carbon and no radiation could fuse with carbon. Sorry, no.

Not really, neutrons (subatomic particles) when they hit an atom they can sometimes be captured by the nucleus with out causing fission, this happens when the neutron doesnt have much kinetic energy, this however is not fussion because we are talking about a neutron, not a proton (which could be considered as a hydrogen ion), all that would result from this is the atom would become an isotope (if it isnt already one)

parisalpha2

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Report this Mar. 28 2004, 8:09 pm

Who are we too know if it is scientificly plousible since we still know very little about what could be out there

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Report this Mar. 29 2004, 10:36 pm

Quote (recremsirrah @ Mar. 27 2004, 5:40 pm)
Quote (Starship_Trooper @ Mar. 27 2004, 12:29 pm)
much of Star Trek is scientifically bogus.  I always cringe when I hear people say they learned science from Star Trek.  That thought is...scary.

That is absolutely not true. Star Trek, especially in the non-TOS series, has always been scientifically remarkably sound. Sure, there are some truly great blunders (an object being frozen to -10 K is my favorite) but for the most part it is fairly reliable and it is definitely a lot more reliable than most science fiction.

Ok then, let's look at some "scientific" concepts essential to the existence of star trek.

warp drive:  bogus.  If it happens, I'm willing to bet it won't be like anything we see on the show.
impulse drive:  bogus
phasers:  bogus.  Any scifi series that uses lasers is all ready more "realistic" than star trek.
time travel:  second biggest pile of bogus in star trek.
interspecies breeding:  the absolute biggest pile of bogus in star trek
transporters:  bogus.

Star Trek is based on a realm on nonexistent, impossible science.  The best episodes are when they don't try to explain scientifically impossible events.  Get a good writer, write a nice fiction story and entertain us.  But if it's science you want, buy a book written by a real scientist, or even better, go to school for it.  But don't get your science from Star Trek.

Vold

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Report this Mar. 30 2004, 10:44 pm

Quote (recremsirrah @ Mar. 28 2004, 2:40 pm)
(an object being frozen to -10 K is my favorite)

What's that? the object I mean, what was frozen to -10k?

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Nothing subatomic could fuse with carbon and no radiation could fuse with carbon.


How would you know?
Have you got hidden Theleron Radiation stock piled somewhere for research?
Have you researched every radiation in the universe?

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Report this Mar. 31 2004, 12:31 am

Quote (Vold @ Mar. 29 2004, 8:44 pm)
Quote (recremsirrah @ Mar. 28 2004, 2:40 pm)
(an object being frozen to -10 K is my favorite)

What's that? the object I mean, what was frozen to -10k?

There is no such thing as -10 kelvin, absolute zero kelvin is the lowest possible temperature that our universe can possibly fall down to. (It is where all atoms stop moving)

bad_karma

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Report this Mar. 31 2004, 6:58 pm

Quote (BlobInfinityCivic @ Mar. 30 2004, 9:31 pm)
Quote (Vold @ Mar. 29 2004, 8:44 pm)
Quote (recremsirrah @ Mar. 28 2004, 2:40 pm)
(an object being frozen to -10 K is my favorite)

What's that? the object I mean, what was frozen to -10k?

There is no such thing as -10 kelvin, absolute zero kelvin is the lowest possible temperature that our universe can possibly fall down to. (It is where all atoms stop moving)

Duh, i think Vold knows that, it was a mistake in trek, hes just asking what object it was

tribblish

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Report this Mar. 31 2004, 9:18 pm

Quote (Xelopheris @ Mar. 25 2004, 11:10 pm)
It could be that it creates fusion reactions with Carbon, thus eliminating the building element of life.

Not all life forms in Star Trek are carbon-based.  There are some silicon-based ones.

Vold

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Report this Mar. 31 2004, 10:02 pm

Yes,

but right now Nemesis only showed, Romulans, Humans, Klingon, Bolians.

Which are Carbon Based. :)

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