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"What is your favorite equation?"

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 6:18 pm

"What is your favorite equation?"

That is probably the nerdish question you can ask. Of course you can ask more specific ones, through jargon, being more specific, and so on, but that question is more universal because most people can at least name one equation.

I think this generation is weaker at math then approximately 10 years ago. If I asked; "What’s your worst subject?" (or something to that nature) most people would say math. One problem are the teachers - not that they are good or bad its just that a lot of skilled people that really like to teach don’t because teachers do not make that much money and that’s a reason they steer clear of teaching. (I’m referring to grade school)

For math it self In English grammar for example there are some things that you have to think out side of the box like subordinate clauses, independent, . . . . . . But really that’s just as hard as graphing a linear equation (that is the actual process of learning how to do both) it’s just how much effort you put into it and how much you like it. The more you like it the easier it’s to get that data thorough your head. I think to teach math you really need to show how it connects to every day life and to the job place. This makes it a lot easier to learn if you see how it is used in real life that’s one big problem with some teacher when the try to teach math they don’t show it used in the real world.

Math is a big problem for today’s generation for the most part (as a whole). I think we really have to have the teachers (mainly pre-algebra) really show how it connects to the real world and just teach in different ways because everyone learns differently.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 6:35 pm

Math is a fundamental and crucial for understanding reality, and even for common knowledge needed for functioning in society. Considering its importance it’s obvious that because of the low quality of teaching in public schools that they’re not to teach anything in public schools. Perhaps they’re designed to make you dumb, or maybe it’s just the result of pure negligence and no intended harm. In any case they’re being harmed by the public school system no matter what the cause of the problem is.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 6:36 pm

I meant to say math is a fundamental science.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 6:36 pm

I meant to say they’re not trying to teach anything in public schools.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 6:46 pm

What you basically need to be successful in math is knowing how to calculate in arithmetic. You can’t understand mathematical ideas without knowing how to calculate, so that’s the basis of being good at math. Once you know how to calculate mathematical concepts are understandable and easy to understand. Calculation is the alphabet of math.

This is true, one time when I was high I was imagining things, which is really wonderful when you’re high, and thought a division problem in images and I immediately also saw the answer to it. Then later I checked it and it was right. The mind is more powerful than the general level of awareness believes.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 7:06 pm

One problem with math teachers is that people who have good math skills can make lots more money in business than they can teaching math in elementary schools. A way to address the problem would be to have teachers negotiate their own contracts, instead of one-size-fits-all. Then since math teachers are chronically in short supply, their salaries would go up, and they’d make a lot more than, say, gym teachers. This would solve a lot of problems, but it would require that we destroy the teachers unions first, since they would never EVER allow different pay for different union members.

But there are so many important educational reforms require destroying the teachers unions as a first step...

My favorite (quadratic) equation, by the way, is x^2 - x - 1 = 0.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 7:10 pm

You’re contradicting yourself. You’re saying we need to let teacher’s negotiate their own contracts, meaning let them make their own choices, and then are saying we need to destroy unions which of course people have the choice of belonging to. I agree that unions slow people down in a free market but they have the choice to belong to them if they want. There’s nothing criminal about that.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 7:12 pm

The solution is to respect free enterprise rights and pay for what you need.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 7:24 pm

This anti-union (destroy union) mentality is induced by people who don’t want to pay the workers of their companies equal to the value of their work. It’s created by people who want to rip you off. If you’re trying to fip me off you mafioso mother*cker we’ll see who’ll be out of job, sh!t.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 7:42 pm

"negotiate their own contracts" = each teacher negotiates his or her own individual contract. Otherwise it won’t work.

Teachers do not have a "choice" about belonging to a union. The unions do not ALLOW public schools to hire non-union teachers. Teachers either join the union, or they can’t teach in a public school.

If you agree that teachers should be allowed to make their own choices, then the only way to do it is to destroy the union. Sorry to be so blunt, but this issue goes back very far with me. We either DESTROY the teachers unions, or we will get nowhere with trying to improve public education in the US.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 8:00 pm

How do you mean unions don’t allow schools to hire non-union teachers?

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 9:36 pm

Are you telling me you don’t know what a "closed shop" is? If so, I’ll explain it.

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Report this Sep. 07 2002, 10:41 pm

It’s your argument. I’m just asking you to support your claim.

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Report this Sep. 09 2002, 12:41 am

Definately. I heard a saying, "Those who can do. Those who can’t teach." I had a great physics teacher who knew the answer to any question we could think to ask her, (really. she was incredible) and I never quite understood why she was a teacher. She could make $100,000+ working somewhere else, but she didn’t. Same with my Biology teacher. His specialty was Microbiology, he knew all about Genetics and tiny microoranisms, but he still came and taught us stuff. I don’t get it.

By the way, I love Fermat’s theorum (x^n+y^n = z^n). It’s amazing how so simple an equation could baffle mankind for so long.

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Report this Sep. 20 2002, 11:34 am

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