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Wormholes from treks point of view

gdog243

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Report this Aug. 25 2002, 5:54 pm

I usually don’t post on the science board but I was watching another scifi show the other night that was all about wormhole technology and knowledge and I was thinking about it for trek.

Why is it that Star Trek seems to not want to talk about this phenomenon as much as other shows like stargate or farscape. Granted there were some wormholes like the bajoren, barzan, or the temperal one encountered by voyager, but it is mostly ignored in change of studying nebula.

I was just wondering in the limited amount of episodes and concepts, has trek given its point of view on what a wormhole is. Is it just a way to travel faster to the unknown, or is it more than that? How are they formed. I mean if it is a natural cause, there should be a scientific explaination. The show I was watching gave the point of view that wormholes could lead to paralell universes or cause a ripple in time and space. That is why I am quite facinated with this subject.

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Report this Aug. 25 2002, 6:38 pm

Star Trek does kind of steer clear of things like relativity (wormholes included) because the explanation of it and how it connects to warpdrive would be complex for just a TV show. One of the TNG episodes they talked about a scientist that was trying to prove that time was affected by gravity. We already know that because Einstein proved this through general relativity. ST I don’t think has given us a good picture of what it really is. They have however explained a few things about them. Its a TV show so some things are just for the effect and the entertainment and because most people do not think that the complex explanations of such things like wormholes or things like relativity is fun ST does not go into such things as a result.

A wormhole is basically a connection from one 3D point to another 3D point using a 4D connection too. Its like bending a paper and imagine that the paper represents the 3D world and there is a wormhole that connects a point from point A lets say thats on the top to point B thats on the bottom. So instead of just traveling that long distance to them we go through the wormhole to that other point. If you successfully entered one you would travel to the end point at the very same second, there might be a time delay, or you might be already there!

When I said, "if you successfully entered one you would travel to the end point at the very same second, there might be a time delay, or you might be already there" I say this as you have stated time gets effected by a wormhole. It just depends on how it is made up or its structure. That goes into general relativity so I wont go into here and they probably talked about it on the show.

Entering a || (parallel) universe is a possibility if they exist in the first place. We have not really proven yet that they actually exist and only a few scientists think that they do. One way that some people like David Deutsch thinks that they can be proven is by looking at a experiment that basically has a box, has a pronto gun on one side, two slits that can be open or closed in the middle which allows that pronto to get through or not, and finally we have some kind of reader and a 4 different sites that can be lite up by the light or not. When you only send out one pronto at a time you would not think that each of the signal sites get lit with only one proton! David Deutsch thinks this is because they are interacting with other || universes.

Then main thing is if David Deutsch is correct how would they connect to each other besides on a more quantum level? That goes back to quantum gravity (a connection between general relativity and quantum mechanics) [wow I have said that a lot on this board because that’s where the modern physics is]. See in space there are multiple dimensions and they over lap so if a wormholes mouths are at the right place and if || universes really exist then it is very possible.

How they are formed we can only now give a more general description of. We dont really know 100% and the best way is to really look at blackholes. Blackholes form when a _ (I forgot what kind) star dies and its gravity is still there its just there in another way and that one has not turned into a complete dent[womrhole]. Now another one went through the same thing and they connected.[""]

Time, space, || universes, . . . .all of the wonderful things that makes space it self so interesting.

(Sorry for going off topic a bit)
Master Q
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Report this Aug. 25 2002, 8:32 pm

"One of the TNG episodes they talked about a scientist that was trying to prove that time was affected by gravity. We already know that because Einstein proved this through general relativity."

If he proved it why do they call it a theory?

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